Grok + zope3 could be a choice too. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 05:39, hcarvalhoalves <hcarvalhoal...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Why do you have to "make a choice"? Learn both. They can be useful in > many different ways. > > I learned Rails (and Ruby) before Django, because I saw some material > for Ruby that got me interested in hacking on it. Some time later, > Rails got really popular. Then lately I learned Python and Django, and > I've been working with it professionally for 2 years now. > > Now I don't have much more interest in Rails anymore, because Django > seems to cover all you can do with Rails, plus the benefits of Python > (you have a faster language, with more libraries and in a more mature > state). Syntax and all for more is close to irrelevant - what matters > is productivity. Some people will get you into religious wars about > blocks, or test driven frameworks, or whatever is the trend... skip > over those. > > I would recommend learning other frameworks too. Python got a big > share of web frameworks, that have their own focus on a particular > structure - some can be better for REST APIs than Django, for example. > [1] Ruby also got other frameworks than Rails, but they shine a little > less. > > Also, I would recommend you to learn *the language* first, and using > the framework to play with it. Make sure you don't use this mindset of > "I'm sick of PHP - let me find a magic framework", otherwise you won't > get much further the 15 minutes blog tutorials. Real web applications > will still require a lot of your own components and glue code for the > framework, in addition to your domain logic. > > Having said that, Rails is quite limiting, but still a good choice. > > [1] http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks > > On 9 abr, 13:06, UnclaimedBaggage <baynej...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm a long-term (8 years) PHP developer who's recently started > > dabbling with Rails & Django. I REALLY like what I've seen from both > > frameworks and quite frankly, am a little miffed I didn't jump on the > > bandwagon earlier. > > > > I'm trying to decide between the two frameworks, but I'm > > struggling to get out of stalemate. If anyone can offer advice, I'd be > > very appreciative. Here are my current thoughts: > > > > WHAT I LIKE ABOUT DJANGO > > * I LOVE django-admin . For the sort of work I do, which is a lot of > > customised cart/cms stuff, this would save a lot of time. > > * Code reusability seems superior. Opinions? > > * Better perfomance? > > * I've half-built a shopping cart app in Django that I'm happy with. A > > quick dabble in Rails made this task seem a little more time- > > consuming, and I'm not comfortable with drop-in solutions > > * Server seems more stable. Using the rails dev server on a local > > linux box twice threw errors I couldn't trace, then worked fine again > > the next time I restarted my computer (having previously restarted the > > server with no result). Is this a common problem? > > > > WHAT I LIKE ABOUT RAILS > > * I prefer the syntax > > * There seems to be a lot more work for rails...with better pay > > * "Agile Rails" is a damn fantastic book. I haven't found much Django > > documentation I've enjoyed as much > > * Seems to be a little simpler > > * Seems to have a greater depth of features > > * Better AJAX integration from what I've seen > > > > Obviously I expect some django-tilted opinions here, but if anyone > > with > > experience in both can offer a balanced perspective on pros-n-cons of > > each it would be a big help. > > > > Cheers. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<django-users%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
