Re: [dl-ticket-service] thunderbird 68 beta released

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Did you read today that Richard Stallman has been forced out of the Free Software Foundation? https://www.metafilter.com/183159/Odious-ideas-are-not-entitled-to-hide-from-criticism Stallman always seemed to me to be a principled guy.  I don't think that pedantic defense of child rape is a supportable "principle".  The entire point of the "Free software movement" was that we were better than the establishment.   To my way of thinking Free Software doesn't simply mean free to copy and modify, but free from old ideas about ownership and control.  When I see a Amazon logo on the Ubuntu desktop this doesn't bother me exclusively because I think that Amazon is a corrupt organization, but because I think  that it flies in the face of the "Ubuntu philosophy". From wikipedia: Ubuntu (Zulu pronunciation: [ùɓúntʼù])[1] is a Nguni Bantu term meaning "humanity." It is often translated as "I am because we are," or "humanity towards others," but is often used in a more philosophical sense to mean "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity."[2] In other words if you sell out to Amazon you can't possibly have a "humanist bond of sharing".  Everything they do from this point on is suspect. The Mozilla has done a lot of things that I don't like.  That API thing  has bothered me for a while so recently I switched to Waterfox.  The thing that really pissed me off was the pocket integration.  Check this out: In June 2015, Pocket integration was added as a default feature to the Mozilla Firefox web browser, via a toolbar button and link to a user's Pocket list in the bookmarks menu. The integration was controversial, as users displayed concerns for the direct integration of a proprietary service into an open source application, and that it could not be completely disabled without editing advanced settings, unlike third-party extensions.[9] A Mozilla spokesperson stated that the feature was meant to leverage the service's popularity among Firefox users and clarified that all code related to the integration was open source.[10][11] The spokesperson added that "[Mozilla had] gotten lots of positive feedback about the integration from users".[10] On February 27, 2017, Pocket announced that it had been acquired by Mozilla Corporation, the commercial arm of Firefox's non-profit development group. Mozilla staff stated that Pocket would continue to operate as an independent subsidiary but that it would be leveraged as part of an ongoing "Context Graph" project.[7] There are plans to open-source the server-side code of Pocket[12][13][14] but that has yet to materialize as of July 2019. Do you want to run your own pocket server?  It's been years.  There is still no code.  Did money change hands or does Moz really really love the pocket corporation, or maybe they're too lazy to put that pocket code on github ( but not to lazy to rewrite firefox). I would like to see a fork, like the waterfox fork.  We could call it waterbird or wetbird or ... penguin.  Yes the Penguin email program.  I'm a marketing genius! I'm thinking about what to do here.  It is possible to use the DL server without Thunderbird integration.  That is what I am doing now.  The addon just automates the process of adding a link to your email.  I haven't written any code since high school but I might try to look at it.  I have a feeling if I don't it will still be in the same state next year at this time. Since Yuri seems to have lost interest in the project, maybe he might be persuaded to change the web site to reflect the current status of DL thunderbird addon. On 9/16/2019 16:24, John Crisp wrote: On 16/09/19 14:05, Thierry Murgue wrote: Le 23/08/2019 à 15:39, Hofer Konrad a écrit : will there be a new release of DL for thunderbird 68? Same request here: Yuri do you think to have enough time to make a release for TB 68? I think from what I understand due to a variety of circumstances the chances are pretty well zero. I have offered to pay for for it to be updated but no takers. I don't believe that Moz/TB are that bothered as they probably get some form of sponsorship for including WeTransfer. This would just lose them revenue. Ahhh, yes: https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/ "WeTransfer and Thunderbird are both excited to be able to work together on this great feature for our users. The Thunderbird team thinks that this will really improve the experience of collaboration and and sharing for our users." Follow the smell of money. Seems it is baked in to Thunderbird and you cannot remove it. Shocking. I've added a bug but it will be chinned off as normal. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1581540 Another reason not to use TB. I wish I could code the extension myself but it is way out of my range. If you know anyone interested in working on it then let me know. In the meantime we are starting to look at moving away from TB. The DL plugin was one of the few things that kept us there. Without it we may as well look at alternatives. Sick of being told by Moz devs they know best and we know nothing. Hey ho. B. Rgds John -- Chaleureusement, -David Wilson