I agree with John Payne on this one. Their implementation shouldn't
work this way based on the default settings.

Regards,
Al Iverson

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On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Payne, John via dmarc-discuss
<dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Petr Novák via dmarc-discuss 
>> <dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I saw that FortiNet's FortiMail is listed as a product that has a DMARC 
>> support here: "https://dmarc.org/resources/products-and-services/"; .
>>
>> I wonder what do you guys think about it's DMARC implementation. If you 
>> enable DMARC check in FortiMail it rejects(or performs other configured 
>> action) any mail that fails DMARC check no matter what policy source domain 
>> has configured. So it also rejects mails from domains that have policy 
>> p=none. After contacting their support I was told that this implementation 
>> is by desing and they dont have any plans to change it.
>>
>> In DMARC RFC there is:
>> "To enable Domain Owners to receive DMARC feedback without impacting 
>> existing mail processing, discovered policies of "p=none" SHOULD NOT modify 
>> existing mail disposition processing."
>>
>> So I guess it doesn't break RFC if there is "SHOULD NOT" and not "MUST NOT"? 
>> But I still think this implementation of DMARC is wrong. What do you guys 
>> think?
>
>
> Speaking only as an enterprise trying to use DMARC, FortiMail’s 
> implementation as described above is wrong and serves only to discourage 
> others from implementing a DMARC policy.  p=none is vital.
>
> That said, I would have no objection to fortimail customers having the option 
> to treat p=none as p=quarantine or p=reject -> that’s completely up to them.  
> But by default no thank you!
>
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