> On Sep 30, 2015, at 5:39 PM, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
> 
>>> The local signer here must know this message goes to dmarc@ietf.org
>>> an add a signature including "!fs=ietg.org"
>> 
>> An average email author cannot be relied on to cause this setting to be
>> made.
> 
> Quite correct.  I would expect conditional signatures to be applied by
> large mail systems, using their private list of domains that look like
> mailing lists to decide who gets them.

How much of a barrier to entry to new or small mailing list providers
(or new domains being used there) does this cause?

> From the past couple of years of discussion, it is clear that all of
> the large mail systems already have such a list of domains, so the
> implementation should be straightforward.
> 
> Small domains may not, in which case there's a variety of ways they
> could approximate it, e.g., sniff incoming mail for stuff that looks
> like list mail to create a list, cooperate on a shared database of
> mailing list domains, or most likely admit that they are too small to
> be phish targets so publishing a DMARC policy is counterproductive.

Cheers,
  Steve

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