On 6/2/2020 3:53 PM, Seth Blank wrote:
The point I was trying to make is that consumers are susceptible to fraud,

Of course they are.  Unfortunately, that point is irrelevant, because it isn't the question at hand.


and the system needs to stop these messages before they ever get in front of a user.

Exactly.  And that's why claiming that making the From: field domain name better (or worse) in changing recipient user behavior is wrong.


The signal I was talking about is from the data: when something tries to authenticate to an MTA but then tell the user it's someone else. That's what alignment fixes and what's so powerful about DMARC.

Seth, your statement is so confused, I'm not sure I can fix it up. "Authenticate to the MTA?"  DKIM and DMARC don't do that.

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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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