On 7/28/2020 1:13 PM, Todd Herr wrote:

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1:37 PM John Levine <jo...@taugh.com <mailto:jo...@taugh.com>> wrote:

    The canonical example of different From and Sender is exactly this:
    Sender is an assistant working for and sending mail for From.

This is also precisely the situation I asked about during the session on Dave's sender proposal.

And it is exactly the reason RFC 733 defined two different header fields.


Using the Sender header and the "snd" bits in the DMARC policy for firstbrand.com <http://firstbrand.com>, DMARC would pass for the Sender domain and fail for the From domain.

Which verdict gets applied to the message?

DMARC is written with the view that receivers will follow the directive in the domain owner's DMARC record, but really the receiver has complete discretion, and many receivers exercise that interpretive freedom.

So the answer to your question needs to be: the receiver needs to juggle these bits of information and decide what action to take. It's what they do, anyhow.

This isn't something that has a simple, obvious answer that is always correct.  So leave it as a matter of receiver discretion. Especially since that's what it actually is.

d/

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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net

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