On 17 Sep 2020, at 20:59, Jesse Thompson 
<jesse.thompson=40wisc....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> On 9/17/20 2:11 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Wouldn’t it be nice if you could ask for MLMs to transform, just using a 
>> DMARC policy, even p=none,
> 
> It is possible via p=quarantine pct=0.  
> 
> I think it makes sense to consider codifying beyond this defacto standard 
> hack.  Isn't this part of DMARCbis?  It was discussed, anyway.  Which ones 
> are active?  https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dmarc/report/1

These tickets seem to be relevant:
#22 (Perverse incentives to use p!=none & pct=0): 
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dmarc/ticket/22
#73 (Need decision on importance of From domain): 
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dmarc/ticket/73
#63 (Make p=none with no reporting URI invalid—Closed): 
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dmarc/ticket/63

I did not realise that this “hack” had become widespread. I agree that it 
should be codified, or else p=none explicitly needs to support it (and in that 
case reporting must remain optional). I can’t speak to the pct parameter, 
because my sites are too small to really benefit from it.

Cheers,
Sabahattin

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