>> I have been trying to understand why such a big disconnect is
>> possible between my usage of DMARC data and the standard one.   I
>> have concluded that it occurs because we are dealing with two
>> protocols, not one, and the standard view conflates them
>> unnecessarily.   The first protocol is the algorithm for detecting
>> DMARC PASS, and the second protocol is the algorithm for handling
>> DMARC FAIL.
>
> No.
>
> There is one protocol - DMARC, and the application of that protocol
> can nominally produce two results - PASS or FAIL.
>
> The protocol defines the methods for arriving at those results, and
> offers the domain owner the opportunity to publish its opinion on what
> should be done with messages producing a FAIL verdict, but does not
> mandate any behavior for FAIL verdicts, nor should it. Message
> handling decisions will always, always, always be at the discretion of
> the receiving domain; their network, their rules.

I look at it a different way, coming to the same conclusion that it's
one protocol:

There's the part that domain owners do: publish DMARC policy records.

There's the part that mail recipients do: determine DMARC PASS or
DMARC FAIL, and then take action accordingly.

They're two parts of one protocol and they are not at all independent;
we are not conflating them.

That's my opinion as a participant.

As a chair, I clearly see consensus with the views that Todd and I,
along with several others, have expressed in this discussion.  I don't
see that this line of discussion is going anywhere useful and I see it
as a distraction from finishing the work.  Let's please move on.

Barry

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