I do. Maybe I'm wrong and I've just read far to many crazy ideas preceded by "It doesn't actually say you CAN'T do that". I would strongly prefer we be as direct and blunt about this as possible, even though that's probably insufficient to the task in at least some cases.
I know Ale liked your change because it was 'nicer'. I guess I dislike it for roughly the same reason. Scott K On Saturday, August 27, 2022 5:50:10 PM EDT Barry Leiba wrote: > You really think it needs to be BCP 14 key words, rather than saying in > plain English that if there’s no DMARC record we are outside the realm of > DMARC? > > Barry > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 5:15 PM Scott Kitterman <skl...@kitterman.com> > > wrote: > > On Friday, August 26, 2022 11:51:51 AM EDT Alessandro Vesely wrote: > > > On Fri 26/Aug/2022 17:21:09 +0200 Barry Leiba wrote: > > > > Personally, I'm fine with the text here, but I would also be happy > > > > with removal of the BCP 14 key words here, like this: > > > > > > > > NEW > > > > If the set produced by the DNS Tree Walk contains no DMARC policy > > > > record > > > > > > (i.e., any indication that there is no such record as opposed to a > > > > transient DNS error), then the DMARC mechanism does not apply to this > > > > message and Mail Receivers need to use other means to decide how to > > > > handle the message. > > > > END > > > > > > This is nicer than MUST NOT. It makes more sense, since we also removed > > > the SHOULD when the record is found and the test fails. > > > > I very much disagree. If there's no DMARC record, whatever you do after > > that > > is not DMARC and we should say so. Softening this language opens the door > > for > > all kinds of nonsense. People can and will do nonsensical things, but we > > need > > to make it very clear that this isn't what this document is about. > > Tampering > > with the opt-in nature of DMARC is a recipe for interoperability problems. > > > > Scott K _______________________________________________ dmarc mailing list dmarc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc
