On 11/12/23 03:59, Neil Anuskiewicz wrote:
What is the definition of rough consensus. That is if you took a vote, 100 
people voted yes and 3 voted no, the three win? Id there’s a document that 
states these rules I’d be happy to dig into it. If there’s a rule we should 
have a vote. Who is entitled to vote? Like I’m new to this and so it’d be 
understandable if I’m not entitled to a vote. That said, what do the rules say?


Scott gave the chapter-and-verse reference:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7282

The problem we typically have is with the level of participation. Specifically, not having enough people actively participating. (I am guilty of being a "variable" participant myself.)

As I described the situation to a group last week, consensus is a very different animal when you have your 100 participants, versus 6 or 8 regular participants. The lower the number, the more space each question/objection takes up.

That's just group dynamics; on top of that, you have questions like whether the X or Y participants you have adequately represent the "Internet community," or even the "IETF community," as Murray raised in San Francisco.

--S.


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