O.k., Why vinyl and CD anyway???
High quality MP3s will do the job aswell.... :)

Mat/Vertecs
(no sitting under the table expecting things being thrown after me)


Patch wrote:

> Here we go again...  another cd vs vinyl debate.
> :)
>
> Patch
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mbrodie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, 1 March 2002 3:45 AM
> To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: CDs v Vinyl
>
> Heh, This thread iz funny.
>
> Anyone who would say that CDs should not be used in a set iz crazy. When
> they are not scratched or broken, they make a much welcomed companion to
> mixing vinyl on my CDJ1000. Sometimes I do entire shows with CDs [not
> pre
> mixed tho] when pay or room size/shaky floors do not allow vinyl to be
> played without massive skips. Club heaven & Hell is a perfect example,
> the
> floor vibrates way too much from me making the crowd dance. If you play
> a
> sedated set tho, then maybe you could use vinyl there. Cds are also
> great
> because they let me play stuff months before most of it comes to the US
> in
> vinyl format. Also, occasionally they save me money because vinyl is so
> darn
> expensive these days, though I usually end up buying the vinyl later
> anyway
> [and spendin all the money I make from my sets]. I am also allowed to
> carry
> a wider selection and I also don't loose fidelity from the dub plates I
> record onto CD. I record all of my CDs from vinyl anyway, so they keep
> the
> feel and sound, including the pops. Sometimes, you may even catch me
> playing
> entirely off of my laptop PC, matching beats, scratching, and dooing
> reloads, from Mp3s but, usually, that just means I am messin around,
> that
> technology needs a little more work in terms of reliability. People who
> are
> against using CDs and New Technology are usually people who do not watch
> television and phones and they often take stairs instead of elevators,
> they
> [might] fear new technology. Lots of respect for all vinyl shows, and
> those
> who only do them, when they can be done tho, I love vinyl, I use vinly a
> lot, especially for making mixed CDs! But as long as CDs work and sound
> good, fear no evil electronics. As for pre mixing CDs, for me thats a
> no-no.
> I just have single tracks on my CDs. I may have a long piss track CD,
> but
> thats it.
>
> "Have no fear for atomic energy, cause none of them can stop the
> times" -Immortal Bob Marley
>
> Winterman
> http://www.mp3.com/winterman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Matthias Nolte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:00 AM
> Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume/Shimon
>
> > Is he actually playing CDs then??
> >
> > Mat/Vertecs
> >
> > Trajche Petrushevski wrote:
> >
> > > Optical does it because it's much cheaper that way...
> > > The dubs sounding bad is just an excuse.. :o)
> > >
> > > Respekt,
> > > http://www.mp3.com/GameOver
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jurgen Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:40 PM
> > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume/Shimon
> > >
> > > >
> > > > interesting what Shimon says about dubs sounding so bad,
> > > > that's probably why Optical prefers burning them on CD nowadays
> (or so
> > > I've been said)
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------
> > > > On 26 Feb 2002 at 20:46, Jurgen Baute wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ok, thanx, I just noticed is was on the front page *LOL* :)
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > On 26 Feb 2002 at 19:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/interviews/Shimon-Feb2002/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Jurgen Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: 26 February 2002 19:41
> > > > > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume/Shimon
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you still have a link to that?
> > > > > > I can't find it amoungst the interviews.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------
> > > > > > On 26 Feb 2002 at 10:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Has anybody read the interview with Shimon on the d'n'b
> > > > > > > arena site?  He comes up with some pretty intersting
> > > > > > points
> > > > > > > about cleaning up your files, and making rooom for sounds
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > give the biggest impact on the dance floor.  Well worth
> > > > > > > reading!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: 26 February 2002 04:07
> > > > > > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> > > > > > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: volume
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > digital clipping leads to audible "crackling"... but if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > clip only every
> > > > > > > once in a while, say on a snare, that's fine because it
> > > > > > > probably won't
> > > > > > > change the sound as much, but try clipping often on bass
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > it's horrible.
> > > > > > > and normalizing won't throw off any eq'ing or anything
> > > > > > else
> > > > > > > you do, it just
> > > > > > > scans your sound file, determines what the loudest peak
> > > > > > is,
> > > > > > > and then will
> > > > > > > boost the entire file to whatever level you specify (if
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > loudest it goes
> > > > > > > is -5.2 peak db, and you normalize to 0 db, it'll
> > > > > > > essentially turn up the
> > > > > > > entire file by 5.2 db).  and commercial releases are much
> > > > > > > louder than things
> > > > > > > we release because... they're commercial - people with
> > > > > > huge
> > > > > > > racks of
> > > > > > > tube/analog equipment get paid to work on the tracks until
> > > > > > > they're loud as
> > > > > > > hell without clipping.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > keep at it.  frequent clipping's bad, normalizing isn't,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > one day we'll
> > > > > > > get loud enough.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > joe
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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