> How much should systemd damage the image of GNU/Linux before everybody realise how much of a nonsense it is?
the image of linux is /not/ what will cause change. - people will switch when the annoyance of unexpected systemd behavior outweighs the annoyance of getting rid of systemd - developers will stop using it when something nicer with wider support comes along or they personally are fed up with systemd. - distros will keep requiring it until they start losing lots of people to distros without systemd or have enough complaints/support issues to warrant change. we need to make the first two things happen if there is any hope of the third happening. --Gravis On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:13 PM, KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 01:56:56PM +0000, Matthew Melton wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > Just to support my point, Debian has a great logo, but this is what is > > > currently happening to the users of Jessie, thanks to the > > > systemd-nonsense: > > > > > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00013.html > > > > Think they have found a solution after reading the followups. Reminds me > that someone complained they couldn't terminate fdisk if started by systemd > during boot. > > Might offer to help them...once I have stopped laughing of course. Ha ha. > > > > > > Well, I still find it hard to believe that a modern Unix OS might be > stuck at boot because I forgot to connect an ethernet cable... This is > the essence of the systemd-nonsense. In that case it was "just" a > laptop, but can you imagine something similar happening on a > production server? Who is going to pay for the downtime that these > "little glitches" are going to cause? How much should systemd damage > the image of GNU/Linux before everybody realise how much of a nonsense > it is? > > :( > > KatolaZ > > > -- > [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] > [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] > [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] > [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >
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