On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:09:21 +0100 KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 09:51:36AM -0400, Clarke Sideroad wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > With all the effort that has gone into this so far it deserves to be > > a major distro and it would appear to this guy watching from the > > fringe that the necessary brain power is here, but without a > > noticeably sized user base it will be seen through the eyes of > > blogger/journalist filtered history as the few weirdos who couldn't > > face the "future of computing". > > > > Do not forget the bigger picture. > > Debian has been a major distro for almost 20 years now, is the largest > homogeneous package base in the free software arena, has inspired > literally thousands of other distributions, and has never installed > non-free stuff by default, or recommended the usage of third-party > proprietary video drivers, or promoted the installation of non-free > firmware... > > I just don't see the problem in continuing along this path. This is > not what will kill Devuan, by any means. > > My2Cents > > KatolaZ KatolaZ, I don't think anyone's recommending nonfree by default or promotion, *unless* the only other choice is "we won't install on this hardware at all". Rather than talking about the mechanisms involved, let me talk about my experience as a user. Debian was fine. It offered me an easy way to install nonfree software, which I did, but that was not the default. Debian installed on all the hardware I ever had. Whatever Debian's been doing regarding free and nonfree software, it's been working for me as a user. I think that for the most part we should continue doing whatever Debian was doing. It worked, it worked well. Here are the two things I think we should *not* do: 1) Refuse to install, due to ideological purity, on hardware we *could* have installed on. As far as I know, Debian doesn't do this. 2) Deliberately obscure methods of installing nonfree software. As far as I know, Debian doesn't do this. SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
