Hi Christopher.

Le 16/03/2017 03:32, Christopher Clements a écrit :

Microsoft said, and I quote:

"Note, however, that Compaq and Dell merely have to credibly threaten
Linux adoption in order to push for lower OEM OS pricing."
<http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/halloween2.html>

Linux distributions are the same way when it comes to users.

Customers' move is critical when cash-flow is at stake, not when only ego is.


If a huge chunk of your user base threatened to switch, you'd think
twice about doing whatever it is that they don't like.

Many free software developper teams proved already they are mostly working for themselves - eg Gnome, KDE, Firefox. When people develop software for free, they put a lot of their ego in it, and this goes against the ability to recognize ones own mistakes or bad decisions; I think this is the weak point of free software.


Debian knows that some people do not approve of systemd being mandatory,
but they might not now exactly _how many_ people disapprove.

They just don't care, as long as developpers comply with their requirements. Even some developpers are only concerned with the amount of work implied for them by the init system, and prefer systemd just because of that - good example in the thread pointed by dotcom...@autistici.org: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2017-03/msg00017.html.

Sorry, I would like to share your hopes, but experience shows they're wrong.

Look, today Devuan lives with using mostly Debian packages, a small fraction of which being de-poetterized. Let's be optimistic and assume that Devuan gets more and more success in the future, to the point that most developpers and maintainers come to it. Then the opposite situation will happen: Debian will continue living by mirroring Devuan and poetterizing some of the packages; they'll not give up. But we won't care, just like they don't care of us. WIll they complain on DNG?

    Didier

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