On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 09:34:49 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message <b0d97abd-ebeb-5eab-78c2-db089730d...@linux.com>:
> On 22/08/2017 at 13:36, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 03:38:50 +0200, Adam wrote in message > > <20170822013850.ute5cf7ycrlvc...@angband.pl>: > > > >> There are cases when the old way had its merit -- but here, we > >> have an equivalent of a car that needs to be started with a > >> hand-crank. > > > > ..you may have missed "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley and George > > Orwell's "1984", or at the very least, the main point of these 2 > > books and your own nation's history, in these Trumpian times. > > > > ..an hand-crank car keeps you in control of what's going on around > > you, if you pay attention. > > Why do you think an electric motor cannot do the same? ..straw man, an electric motor cannot do the same without AI taking control away from you. > > Your new shiny AI car may decide to kill you to > > save e.g. "a more worthy person" from something really, really bad, > > e.g. Trumpian embarrasment, e.g. because you pay attention to > > what's going on around you. ;oD > > First off, an electric engine starter does not have to have any AI > built-in. The XX century auto industry proved it. ..and the XXI'st is now disproving it. > Secondly, AI is not inherently a user alien technology, no more that > computers are per se a tools against the users. It all depends on > who is in charge. ..precisely my point. > As there is software that puts the user in charge (Free/OS software) > and software that deprives the user of any freedom (proprietary > software), so there is AI that just serves users and AI that controls > them. ..e.g. systemd is capable of "getting it done" both ways. ;o) > If this could not be, then your only option would be forsaking > IT altogether. ..maybe. Eventually, that too will fail, we mere mortals risk getting targeted "as Islamists" for _not_ carrying cell phones: https://theintercept.com/2014/02/10/the-nsas-secret-role/ https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/firing-blind/ https://theintercept.com/2017/08/21/trump-may-not-survive-his-term-but-the-assassination-complex-will/ -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
