On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 11:53:46 -0400 "taii...@gmx.com" <taii...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 09/05/2017 06:34 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 at 07:32:10 -0400 >> zap <calmst...@posteo.de> wrote: >> >>> On 09/03/2017 05:26 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >>>> On 01/09/2017 at 20:36, zap wrote: >>>>>> I doubt it will be owner controlled, as their laptops aren't - they >>>>>> still haven't even gotten a blobbed version of coreboot working >>>>>> (blobbed init code + ME enabled as they insisted on a crappy intel >>>>>> soc) Purism isn't a trustworthy company. >>>>> Gee, I thought purism was a trustworthy company, I mean they claim you >>>>> can get the latest and the greatest without intel me >>>> This is *not* what they claim: >>>> >>>> https://puri.sm/learn/intel-me/ >>>> >>>> "Freeing the ME is a challenge, but not impossible" >>>> >>>> "By working with Intel, motherboard design developers, as well as our >>>> coreboot developers, Purism has put in motion a solid approach on how to >>> run a freed Intel ME *in the future*." >>> Sorry, but have you talked to libreboot or coreboot about this? and >>> also, not even google with all their money can convince intel to give >>> their secrets to them. That for me is a solid reason why I said this. >> The secret is no more a secret: >> >> http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2017/08/disabling-intel-me.html >> >> August 28, 2017 >> Disabling Intel ME 11 via undocumented mode >> >> "Our team of Positive Technologies researchers has delved deep into the >> internal architecture of Intel Management Engine (ME) 11, revealing a >> mechanism that can disable Intel ME after hardware is initialized and the >> main processor starts. In this article, we describe how we discovered this >> undocumented mode and how it is connected with the U.S. government's High >> Assurance Platform (HAP) program." > That isn't disabling it, it is still involved in the boot process and > you are simply again trusting intels word that everything is fine with > zero verification. > > I take it you work for purism....raptor has made a legitimately owner > controlled computer - whats stopping you? The steep price. > (besides obsession over intel > x86) It is possible to make a POWER laptop with todays lower wattage POWER > cpu's. What makes you think IBM is more trustable than Intel? Who, other than IBM, produces Power8 CPUs? Are the blueprints publicly available? -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD9 _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
