On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 06:03:59PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: [cut]
> > I think the concept of session is still usefull in the framework of a > Desktop Environment. When you log into that kind of environment, you have a > few services associated to it which make your life easier, like monitoring > removable devices, battery or wifi status. It is also easier for dummies to > login through a display manager. > Hi Didier, if I understand it correctly, it seems that elogind + consolekit2 + upower + udisks + other pieces of black magic already allow to mount removable devices, monitor battery, suspend the system, and so on, in several DE configurations. I personally don't get all the intricacies of this hairball of protocols and interdependencies, but I am *very* *happy* that it somehow works, nevertheless. For a layman like me this means that we can consider having stuff like KDE as a working install-time desktop option in Devuan. Maybe not immediately, but surely in the near future. Do I care about DEs? Not at all. Do I care about having as many working DEs options in Devuan as physically possible? Oh yes man, I damn do... > But wether that session is local or not is, in my opinion, and as I > already said, futile; and it seems to be mostly used as a justification to > develop a tangle of daemons and middleware to bypass the traditional unix > security framework. This is where I get totally lost with sessions: why on Earth should I be able to mount an external device on a remote host to which I login via SSH? Or unable to do that, if I am a regular user of that machine? What is the use case for this madness? Does it really solve a problem, or is just the usual non-working and useless solution to a problem that doesn't even exist? I am sure I must be missing something here... HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
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