KatolaZ wrote on 19.01.2018 17:36: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 02:17:28PM +0100, Irrwahn wrote: >> [...], because currently one cannot >> have policykit without having consolekit installed with it, due to >> the "Depends". The package should have something akin to: >> >> Depends: libpam-elogind | consolekit >> >> Anyone up for the task? >> > > Urban, it's not just a matter of recompiling a single package. It is > more about knowing how such a change would impact the whole > distribution, and desktop-things in particular. > > So before we rush into "remove that dep...oh no add that other one > instead...oh no, let's replace this component with a brand-new one > which does not exist yet..." we must know exactly where we want to go, > how to get there, and if the trip is worth the effort at all.
Yeah, I'm beginning to grasp how deeply intertwined this entire hairball is. Either things used to be much easier in the past, or I've become substantially dumber. (Probably both. :P) > Having elogind and consolekit2 in experimental is all about trying to > see if some of the few glitches on the Devuan desktop can be easily > solved. IMHO, this does not mean that we must solve *all* of those > glitches, especially because the same concept of "session" (which is > the root of all this evil) looks at best badly defined, if not totally > bogus. I agree, but as is, for elogind to be of any use, policykit must be installable independently of consolekit(2). Or maybe I completely misinterpreted the whole situation, which is absolutely possible — in which case I apologize for the noise. > We don't necessarily have to follow the white rabbit into its dark > hole, especially because there is a high probability that the rabbit > will turn into a snake. We have the option to stay outside and enjoy > the sun... In my mind, the whole mess looks more like a gigantic game of nuclear whack-a-mole, and the only winning move is not to play. (The optimist believes we are living in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist is afraid the optimist is right. Guess, which faction I belong to. ;^) But honestly, KatolaZ, thanks for damping my enthusiasm. :) Best regards Urban -- Sapere aude! _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
