On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 12:55:10 +0300, Eric wrote in message 
<20180615095510.GA12693@orphan.zombinet>:

> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 08:27:26AM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> 
> *SKIP*
> > it's interesting because it provides an alternative "new" way to
> > bootstrap a new apt based system in addition to the classical
> > debootstrap method. I also noticed the instructions have no mention
> > of systemd, wonder where that will sneak in later...  
> 
> I've made myself to believe that some alternative facts (I guess) must
> be pointed out.
> 
> Linux-from-scratch builds from source.  Debian-from-scratch builds
> from respository.  Quite a difference, eh?

..aye, totally the wrong way, it _would_ be useful, if it could be 
set up to build .deb packages and package repositories from source, 
any source, and independently from any other distro, automagically.

..it has to be set up to happen automagically, or it will stall, 
and die.

> As of svchost -- it *will* come with dependencies, don't you worry.
> What makes me wonder, this, so to speak, manual is dated as 20180610.
> Yet it doesn't mention anything for sources.list or versions of any
> .deb.  What seems sneaky to me, because...
> 
> I dare to state my IMCO (as in 'competent') -- it's impossible to
> build debian-stable.  The only thing debian-* that can be built is
> debian-unstable (not debian-testing).  But to achieve this they
> already need debian-unstable.  What LFS is not.
> 
> So, place apropriate *.deb s all over incomplete LFS, to make it
> debian-unstable.  Then build dpkg and apt.  Why would anyone do that?
> Just unwind apropriate .deb s.
> 
> *CUT*
> 
> p.s.  Also.  For those ignorant out there.  The Linux-from-Scratch has
> gone The Dark Side.  Close that book.

..I slightly disagree, the LFS approach is different from the Debian,
Slackware, RH etc ways of doing thing and may yield insight we might 
miss doing our things the current Devuan way. 

..if automated, it would also be handy when trying to keep an eye on
e.g. systemd "progress" and its impact on system integrity etc, etc.

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.
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