hi warren,

i understand, support, and admire your intent and your
persistent effort.  i wish i had your stamina.

but the ietf has spent years telling operators how important
the ietf is while treating ops as second class citizens inside
the ietf[0].  i sympathise that the latter is much harder to
address than the former; welcome to late stage capitalism.  and
i confess to having given up.

but i can not resist two comments on the former, dns tech
content

  o the ietf is not an unknown.  the nerdy ripe dns wg members
    already follow the ietf dns documents; though some at a
    safe distance :).  the issue may be more how to make it
    efficient and productive to engage.  when being a standards
    professional is not one's dayjob, efficiency is key.

  o your message focuses on the deleg effort to boil the ocean
    yet omits the only (to me) deeply interesting work, that
    of johan stenstam et alia on multi-provider dns[1].  this
    is something dns operators actually need!

randy

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[0] https://archive.psg.com/051000.ccr-ivtf.html
[1] https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/56/contributions/1223/

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