On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 1:50 PM, Randy Bush <[email protected]> wrote: > hi warren, > > i understand, support, and admire your intent and your persistent effort. > i wish i had your stamina. > > but the ietf has spent years telling operators how important the ietf is > while treating ops as second class citizens inside the ietf[0]. i > sympathise that the latter is much harder to address than the former; > welcome to late stage capitalism. and i confess to having given up. > > but i can not resist two comments on the former, dns tech content > > o the ietf is not an unknown. the nerdy ripe dns wg members already follow > the ietf dns documents; though some at a safe distance :). the issue may be > more how to make it efficient and productive to engage. when being a > standards professional is not one's dayjob, efficiency is key. > > o your message focuses on the deleg effort to boil the ocean yet omits the > only (to me) deeply interesting work >
My message was not intended to cover or rate what DNSOP (and ADD and DPRIVE and…) are working on - it was just a list of the adopted documents and published RFCs from those groups (and it seems that only DNSOP has adopted or published since Jan 1st). A better example is probably https://mailman.ripe.net/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/TCK24JJ2XT7NPCEN27NF33A37WSWCSI2/ , which is the same thing but for the routing area. , that of johan stenstam et alia on multi-provider dns[1]. this is > something dns operators actually need! > Yup, fully agree. W > randy > > --- > > [0] https://archive.psg.com/051000.ccr-ivtf.html > [1] https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/56/contributions/1223/ >
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