> On 31 May 2026, at 02:02, Warren Kumari <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> At the recent RIPE 92 meeting the IAB presented on "Bridging IETF and RIPE -
> From Standards to Operations and back".
>
> Part of the feedback was that we should share more targeted information, for
> example that a list of newly adopted drafts and published RFCs. A primary
> purpose of this is incase you see a newly adopted draft where you feel that
> you might be able and willing to provide feedback and operational insight.
>
> This is a trial run of this process - it's newly published RFCs and adopted
> drafts in DNS groups.
> Please let me know if it's actually interesting / of use to you, and I'll see
> about making it better.
Thanks Warren. I welcome this initiative. It's long overdue. :-) Though I think
it may need some tweaking after it's been tested a few times. Let's try it out
and see how things unfold.
I have a few comments/observations.
1) Back in the days when dinosaurs roamed the earth and I co-chaired the WG, we
used to have an IETF report as part of the agenda. The WG decided they didn't
want that. So it got dropped. Maybe attitudes have changed since then and it's
time to try again? The WG's demographic today is certainly different from what
it was in the era when BIND was pretty much the only game in town. OTOH there's
much more pressure on WG slots and agenda time nowadays => postings to the WG
mailing list might be the most pragmatic approach.
2) Improved communication between RIPE (or other operator fora?) and the IETF
would be a very good thing and I'm grateful you and your colleagues are trying
to make that happen. However I think this needs to go further than DNS. So
perhaps start with DNS and build out from there. There are plenty of other
topics at the IETF that should attract interest and even input from operators:
routing, IoT, security, web, QUIC, etc. How about having an IETF report, say in
the RIPE's community plenary, which summarises the latest developments? Who
knows, maybe there could also be a similar update on what's happening at ICANN
and IANA?
3) A sustained presence from the IETF leadership at RIPE meetings - and NANOG,
APRICOT, etc? - would obviously help improve the interactions between these
organisations. This needn't always be through formally scheduled agenda
slots/BoFs or side meetings, though clearly these would help a lot.
Opportunities for hallway conversations over beer or coffee with an AD (say)
could also help move things in the right direction. I realise that could be
difficult because ADs and IAB members are volunteers => there are limits on the
goodwill and support from their employers.
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