I've not seen much attempt yet to spell all this out, so I'll attempt to
solicit some responses...

 
> It seems that have the cart before the horse, so to speak.  IMHO, we need to
> do the following (and there's no reason they cannot occur rapidly):
> 
> 1 - Develop a clear problem statement that outlines (1) how "broken" users
> are defined and (2) what effects this "brokenness" has on these end users
> (or other parts of the Internet).
> 
> 2 - Describe all the various methods and tactics by which end user
> "brokenness" can be detected.  This may include website-based detection,
> DNS-query-based detection, or a variety of other methods.
> 
> 3 - Then, after we have agreement on Problem Definition and Problem
> Detection, we can measure the problem to understand what the scope or scale
> of the problem is.
> 
> 4 - After we understand Problem Definition, Problem Detection, and Problem
> Scope, then you can arrive at possible solutions.  Seems like in this case
> we sort of *started* here, which concerns me and I think we need to be
> careful that discussion thus far does not constrain development of a full
> list of Solution Options.  I further believe we will need to encourage the
> pursuit of multiple solutions simultaneously.  Lastly, just because end user
> software upgrades may be difficult doesn't mean we shouldn't do them and
> shouldn't focus just as much energy on those than other options.
> 
> Jason
> 

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