(I am merging two of Paul Hoffman's messages into one reply. I hope I am not muddling the message)

On 6/24/14 3:57 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
On Jun 24, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Terry Manderson <terry.mander...@icann.org> wrote:

Yes, I noted the hand waving as well as a few hand-passes of problems to
$elsewhere.

The latter is unintentional. That is, the goal is to have a spec that does 
everything it says it will.

I personally think this needs (much) more thinking, before coming to the
front of the room in DNSOP - are you considering a bar session somewhere
in Toronto to chat through this?

That's one option, but we thought that the WG chairs wanted the consensus 
discussions happening in the WG on the list. If that's not the case, we can 
certainly churn the draft in private a bit and then bring it to the WG.


Speaking as co-chair, Mr. Hoffman is absolutely correct on this point - we are more than OK with half-baked ideas being hand-waved and a solid discussion happening on the list.

That's fine: it is supposed to be a consensus document and we aren't there yet. My hope is that DNSOP doesn't become too DNSEXT-like where if the -00 for a proposal isn't universally loved, it is destroyed instead of worked on.

My hope is that DNSOP doesn't become too DNSEXT-like where if the -00 for a 
proposal isn't universally loved, it is destroyed instead of worked on.

We as chairs do not have that mind set. My personal feeling is to figure out what parts do seem to be useful and have some interest, and guide discussions along those lines. We may be also completely delusional, but I'd like to keep believing otherwise for a little while longer.

tim

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