the complaints about operator participation in the IETF go back decades. no news there. in fact, there are operator driven fora for just such activities, DNS-OARC comes to mind. this draft actively destroys trust in the DNS, which reduces trust in the Internet overall. is that really what you want out of the IETF?
/Wm On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Ralf Weber <d...@fl1ger.de> wrote: > Moin! > > On 20 Dec 2016, at 17:33, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > On 20 Dec 2016, at 7:16, tjw ietf wrote: >> >> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for adoption >>> by >>> DNSOP, and comments to the list, clearly stating your view. >>> >> >> The draft itself is really not suitable for adoption by the WG. Just >> slapping "Informational" on the document is insufficient for preventing a >> lot of wasted effort by the WG in removing the parts of the document that >> promote the practices described. >> > Other then in section 1, I didn't see this. However your response is yet > another > examples why we don't have operator participation in the IETF though we > always > say that we want it. > > I've talked to lots of operators of recursive DNS servers and nearly all > of them > have some form of DNS blocking/redirection, yet whenever this comes up in > the > IETF sometimes even from operators (draft-livingood-dns-redirect) we look > the > other way and say this does/should not exist. > > Well it does and if the IETF wants to be relevant to those operators it > would be > good if we had documents describing this, so they could be used as > guidelines. > > And while I don't like yet another draft that encodes something in DNS > data that > was not meant to be DNS data I have to agree that this draft is relevant to > this working group and given that we have already multiple implementations > of > it I think that the draft is something the working group should adopt. > > So long > -Ralf > > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop >
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