On OCT17@07:11, Joe Abley wrote: > On Oct 16, 2022, at 23:03, Christian Huitema <huit...@huitema.net> wrote: > > > The main problem with "giraffe.org" and similar is that the subdomains are > > leased, not owned. A glitch in the renewal, and they are grabbed by some > > domain catcher and redirected to "my sexy giraffe" or some such. > > On the face of it that seems like a compelling endorsement of the idea, that > the biggest risk is one that has proven not to be a significant problem in > aggregate for other lesser-known and marginal uses of the DNS such as, oh I > don't know, the web or e-mail. > > The risks in this case are even lower than in those use-cases, since a > one-time payment secures a renewable ten year lease which is enough to exceed > the effective lifetime of any alternative naming scheme seen to date by quite > some margin,
Technically, GNS celebrated its 10th birthday in 2022 ;) But back to business: You cannot think both that alternative name systems are fleeting trends and at the same time are a serious threat to DNS namespace consistency. That does not make sense. > > Despite your endorsement, however, I suspect people will continue to ignore > this approach in favour of squatting on top-level labels, a fate that seems > likely to be replicated faithfully with alt. That was the point I was > apparently not able to refrain from repeating, really. > I know that is a valid opinion to hold and is difficult to refute without epiric evidence. However, such a PoV also requires a lucid conclusion as consequence. For example, if it is consensus that .alt is a pointless endeavour because all/most/a lot of alternative name systems will squat TLDs, the question becomes: Why do you they squat a TLD? I think that most alternative name systems squat a specific TLD as a unique identification. They do not try to squat and replace DNS on purpose. At the same time I can think of no alternative name system that could not technically squat on the whole DNS namespace in theory. In conclusion (and I am repeating myself): You have the unique chance here to funnel this phenomenon in safe and manageable bounds using .alt. For that you need to understand why the squatting is happening. What would you rather have? A document you can point to where you can tell sqatting name systems that they are "doing it wrong" or a document that cannot hope to have any effect whatsoever on alternative name systems because it simply reserves a TLD and tells DNS implementations to "don't go there". BR Martin > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
