Hi Ralph,

Your suggestion looks very good.
I need the help of several people:
Juha, Jinmei-san and Ohta-san.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ralph Droms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I have a couple of comments on the revised doc at
> http://www.adhoc.6ants.net/~paul/publications/ietf-internet-draft/draft-ietf
> -dnsop-ipv6-dns-configuration-02.txt
> 
> 1. Section 5.1 describes (implicitly) an ISP scenario in which the CPE is a
> router and there is a customer network behind the CPE.  However, section
> 5.1.1 describes a scenario in which the CPE is a host that is directly
> connected to the ISP network.  I found the jump between scenarios a little
> confusing wihtout more warning that two scenarios were being described.  I
> also was confused by the last paragraph in 5.1.1, which (I think) applies to
> the CPE/host scenario and not the CPE/router scenario.  If others also find
> the existing text less than clear, perhaps the following text would improve
> the clarity:
> 
>    5.1 ISP Network
> 
>       A characteristic of ISP network is that multiple Customer
>       Premises Equipment (CPE) devices are connected to IPv6 PE
>       (Provider Edge) routers and each PE connects multiple CPE devices
>       to the backbone network infrastructure [11].  The CPEs may be
>       hosts or routers.
> 
>       In the case where the CPE is a router, there is a customer
>       network that is connected to the ISP backbone through the CPE.
>       Typically, each customer network gets a different IPv6 prefix
>       from an IPv6 PE router, but the same RDNSS configuration will be
>       distributed.
> 
>       This section discusses how the different approaches to
>       distributing DNS information are compared in an ISP network.
> 
>    5.1.1 RA Option Approach
> 
>       When the CPE is a host, the RA option for RDNSS can be used to
>       allow the CPE to get RDNSS information as well as /64 prefix
>       information for SLAC at the same time when the host is attached
>       to a new subnet [8]. Because an IPv6 host must receive at least
>       one RA message for stateless address autoconfiguration and router
>       configuration, the host could receive RDNSS configuration
>       information in that RA without the overhead of an additional
>       message exchange.
> 
>       When the CPE is a router, the CPE may accept the RDNSS
>       information from the RA on the interface connected to the ISP,
>       and copy that information into the RAs advertised in the customer
>       network.
> 
>       This approach is more valuable in the mobile host scenario, in
>       which the host must receive at least an RA message for detecting
>       a new network, than in other scenarios generally although
>       administrator should configure RDNSS information on the routers.
>       Secure ND [12] can provide extended security when using RA
>       message.
> 

o Okay, I agree at the above text.
I have reflected this on our new version just now.

> 2. I doubt the configuration mechanism described in section 5.2.1 would be
> used in practice and I think we should omit section 5.2.1.
> 

o Okay, I'll omit subsection 5.2.1, which was written by myself, from our draft.

> 3. Regarding section 5.3.1:
> 
> At 11:35 AM 7/7/2004 +0300, Pekka Savola wrote:
> >RA approach is
> >    light-weight especially in wireless environment where RA message is
> >    used for IPv6 address autoconfiguration, such as cellular networks.
> >
> >==> I recall Hesham Soliman saying on IPv6 WG list that the /64 is assigned
> >on a cellular node with the v6 PDP context activation?  That is, he argued
> >that there's no need for proxy-ND on the cellular node, as the /64 is
> >assigned independently.  The only way to interpret AFAICS is that ND is not
> >used for SLAAC on those hosts, or we were talking of different things.
> 
> What is the current state of the use of ND/RA and SLAC in 3GPP in 3GPP, and
> are there any planned extensions to use ND/RA and SLAC in the future?  If
> ND/RA and SLAC are not currently used, some of the stated advantages of the
> RA option approach should be reconsidered.  That is, if the use of the RA
> option requires implementation and deployment of ND/RA where it is not
> specified now in 3GPP, deployment of the RA option would seem to require
> roughly the same amount of specification, implementation, deployment and
> traffic overhead as the DHCPv6 option.
> 

o About this, Juha seems to be able to suggest his opinion.

> 4. I don't think Jinmei-san's issues 6 and 13 from
> http://www.uoregon.edu/~llynch/dnsop/msg02915.html were addressed.
> 

o About issue 6 related to RA approach, I  took Jinmei's second suggestion.
I omitted a word "simple" from the RA text.
The modified text is as follows;
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3.1.1  Advantages

The RA option for RDNSS has a number of advantages.  These include:

 1) The RA option is an extension of existing ND/Autoconfig  mechanisms [3][4].
    No new protocol mechanisms are needed for extending an ND implementation to
    support this option.

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o About issue 13 related to WKA approach,
the reorganization of the text can be done by Ohta-san in order to harmonize with 
other approaches.

After I listen to others' text contribution or opinion, I'll reflect them on 02 
version and submit it.

Thanks for your work in advance.

Paul

> - Ralph
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