On Thursday, 23. June 2011 20:29:38 Gary Schnabl wrote:
> On 6/23/2011 1:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
> > On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:53:12 Gary Schnabl wrote:
> >> On 6/23/2011 12:44 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
> >>> Hi Gary,
> >>> 
> >>> On Thursday, 23. June 2011 18:35:27 Gary Schnabl wrote:
> >>>> Therefore, I suggest that every OOo/LO PDF file be so converted
> >>>> by Adobe Acrobat Professional afterward, prior to release so
> >>>> that OOo/LO users will have that extra functionality.
> >>> 
> >>> What purpose do you want this functionality for?
> >>> 
> >>>> ...
> >>>> It seems foolish not to so enable them for the Comment and
> >>>> Review function, considering its ease to do so with no added
> >>>> cost or real time and effort...
> >>> 
> >>> But for what purpose?
> >>> 
> >>> Nino
> >> 
> >> DUH! For any users wanting to add any highlighting and such--a
> >> thing typically done by millions of students and others over the
> >> past few decades on their printed material and books by (usually
> >> yellow-colored) magic markers.
> > 
> > Sorry, Gary, for my ignorance ;-)
> > 
> > I myself have never had the idea to use PDF and highlight something
> > therein, so I just did not know / could not imagine that this is
> > done by so many people today. I remember how happy we have been
> > some decades ago when PDF was "invented" and everybody could read
> > a document with the same layout all over the world. So I just did
> > not recognize the interactive capabilities of PDF today.
> > 
> >> That highlighting functionality can
> >> also be done now electronically on PDFs (as it is commonly done on
> >> such converted PDFs) and even carried over to printed hard copy,
> >> if users so desire to print them out afterward.
> >> 
> >> In addition to highlighting, editorial comments and the like by
> >> users could also be added directly to the PDF documents, among
> >> other capabilities.
> >> 
> >  From these facts I'd say: There is a grain of truth in your
> >  arguments
> > 
> > ;-)
> > 
> > But - however - I'd still say, if "we" provide a User Manual, then
> > we do this for one reason: to enable more users to use our
> > software in a better way. So primary goal is to attract/ enable/
> > empower /educate software users. If some of them really want to
> > highlight the manual or enter comments, ok, maybe. But this is too
> > far from the original purpose in my humble eyes. So it might be
> > good to offer it as a service from someone who believes it makes
> > the difference. But not for "us", who are offering primarily the
> > "core services". Just like many Extensions are built by "external"
> > persons. However, if they really provide a substantial surplus,
> > then people will love them and call for integration into core. So
> > the way to go is, at least for the moment, find someone to
> > implement the functionality, offer it publicly, and wait :-)
> > 
> > Nino
> 
> GM (whose HQ is five miles from here...) sells vehicles that they
> build and equip some of them with options, some (most?) of which
> they do not manufacture themselves. Most buyers prefer having
> options being available (especially if they are thrown it at no
> extra cost), even though they may not use them, right away. OnStar
> is one of them that was used so much that GM bought the company that
> made it.

sure ;-) 

But we are not GM, however. If we could take money and initiate a 
project, this would be fine. 

But all we can do is be so attractive that volunteers deliberately 
spring in and do the necessary work. 

So while GM has to pay regard mainly to the external market, we have to 
sell our ideas even to our "internal" fellows. This works partly by 
sparking enthusiasm in their hearts. But it works better by just doing 
it oneself and giving the result back to the community (if it is 
successfull, of course). 

So finally, why don't you "just do it" yourself? 

Nino

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