+1 to raphaël it's really crazy some times,
today, we debug accounting with florian and test 2 databases (with real data) And we have differents bugs test, test and re test , that's the key ^^ 2015-12-09 12:15 GMT+01:00 Doursenaud, Raphaël <[email protected]> : > Hi Christophe, > > While I understand your views, that should not prevent you from testing > alpha and betas and reporting bugs to have a better version for your next > project ;) > > Some things you can do: > - Use real data to check for regressions in the upgrade path (This is very > important, particularly if you tend to skip versions). > - Try your customers' critical workflows, again to spot regressions > - Check compatibility with your usual platforms (servers, browsers…) > - Learn and discover new features your customers may need > - Have fun doing that :) > > Early feedback is critical. Bug free software simply don't exist without > it. No matter how much effort you put into writing your code, there's > always a corner case you didn't account for, a subtle undesirable side > effect you didn't spot, a language idiosyncrasy you didn't know about, a > shitty browser implementation, a spooky server bug… anything, really. > > Off to testing ;) > > Cheers, > > > *Raphaël Doursenaud* > Directeur technique (CTO) > Expert certifié en déploiement Google Apps > <https://gpcsolutions.fr/raphael-doursenaud-google-apps-certified-deployment-specialist> > +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 > > 2015-12-09 4:31 GMT+01:00 Christophe Battarel < > [email protected]>: > >> "It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs >> integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to set >> a certain "rythm" also." >> >> We are talking about an ERP, not a browser or a music player ! an ERP >> often needs several months to be put in production, and we dont change >> version every 6 months ! >> >> My 2 cents as an integrator. >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> *Christophe Battarel Responsable technique Altairis* >> +33 (0)9 52 71 70 96 >> Altairis <http://www.altairis.fr> - Blog <http://www.altairis.fr/blog> - >> Modules >> Dolibarr <http://www.altairis.fr/modules> - Twitter >> <https://www.twitter.com/altatof> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Le 08/12/2015 11:59, Hubert Andriolo a écrit : >> >> It is just a release calendar to set the steps no ? Versions doesn't >> need to have a certain amount of new features... except in commercial >> softwares maybe... >> >> And the pace is great to focus attention of dev community just before >> releases to correct issues as Rdoursenaud wants to invite. >> >> It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs >> integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to set >> a certain "rythm" also. >> >> I imagine that the sooner and less stable the release is... the later the >> migration of users will be so it is good for Devs to have time to adapt >> modules ;) >> >> Users willing to adopt a 3.9 should wait 3.9.1 to get semi solid >> production environment and 3.9.2 to have a stable one. >> >> Hub >> >> Hubert ANDRIOLO >> Gérant FM MEDICAL >> 0033623101731 >> Le 8 déc. 2015 10:09, < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> a écrit : >> >>> Send Dolibarr-dev mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Dolibarr-dev digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Doursenaud) >>> 2. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Fr?d?ric FRANCE) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 09:42:34 +0100 >>> From: Doursenaud, Rapha?l <[email protected]> >>> To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAML7jmcy6N4reyUDPVqskJfVee_= >>> <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The free software is all about release early, release often. >>> No matter how much we wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed out >>> version. >>> Much less when some want to push major features just before release. >>> >>> If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs were >>> uncovered too late in the release cycle. >>> So start testing, reporting and fixing bugs now! >>> >>> There's already 19 issues that needs fixing: >>> https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.7.3 >>> https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.8.3 >>> https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.9.0 >>> >>> I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET timezone), anyone >>> interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode. >>> Let's make it fun :) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> *Rapha?l Doursenaud* >>> Directeur technique (CTO) >>> Expert certifi? en d?ploiement Google Apps >>> < >>> https://gpcsolutions.fr/raphael-doursenaud-google-apps-certified-deployment-specialist >>> > >>> +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 >>> >>> 2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez < >>> <[email protected]>[email protected]>: >>> >>> > IMHO: >>> > >>> > I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version >>> could be >>> > tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release. >>> > >>> > I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled. >>> > >>> > 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy < <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]>: >>> > >>> >> Hi all, >>> >> >>> >> why launch the 3.9 ? >>> >> we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It >>> will be >>> >> better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and >>> show that >>> >> we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..) >>> >> my 2 cents >>> >> >>> >> 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY < >>> <[email protected]>[email protected]> >>> >> : >>> >> >>> >>> Laurent, >>> >>> >>> >>> Can you create 3.8_backport branch ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Regard >>> >>> >>> >>> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 [email protected]:// >>> <http://www.open-concept.pro>www.open-concept.pro >>> >>> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_ >>> >>> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a ?crit : >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello Laurent >>> >>> >>> >>> Please don?t freez the 3.9 till end of year, >>> >>> >>> >>> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real >>> >>> advance on Dolibarr than a better interface >>> >>> >>> >>> and I don?t the advancement on native multidevis on >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Charlie (defrance) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr= <[email protected]> >>> [email protected] [ >>> >>> mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr= <[email protected]> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> <dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr= <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]>] *De la part de* >>> >>> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) >>> >>> *Envoy? :* dimanche 6 d?cembre 2015 14:53 >>> >>> *? :* ML Dolibarr dev < <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> >>> >>> <[email protected]> >>> >>> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the >>> annoucement >>> >>> of the freez of version 3.9 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would >>> >>> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. >>> >>> >>> >>> It's done. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's >>> start to >>> >>> debug the current develop version ans send fixes. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules >>> >>> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules >>> are still >>> >>> working. >>> >>> >>> >>> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and >>> >>> may create regression for external modules. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Laurent (eldy) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ >>> >>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent >>> >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing [email protected]:// >>> lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique* >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann?e >>> >> <http://www.jeffinfo.com/ma-petite-entreprise-15-ans/ >>> >-------------------------------------* >>> >> >>> >> *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville* >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> *[email protected] < <[email protected]>[email protected]>Gsm : >>> 0608632740 <0608632740>**Skype >>> >> : darkj3ff* >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Gracias por no enviar cadenas. >>> > Ing. 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