yes, sorry for the weak explanation - you are quite correct and more succinct with your explanation ---->
"MOST REGISTRIES (at least the gtlds) automatically renew domain names and bill the registrar for the renewal. However, they refund the charge for the auto-renewal as long as the domain is deleted within 45 days (or some such period)." -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:55 PM To: 'domains-gen' Subject: Re: [domains-gen] ClientHold and nxdomain (registRY autorenewals) On Wed, 9 May 2007, Paul Karkas wrote: > it could be that the name is going to be deleted and you are just seeing > that silly phantom year that the registry adds to names. > > > > When a name 'expires' the registrar (Tucows in this instance) extends the > registration period by an additional 40 days. s/registrar/registry/ ? > > We have a 'deal' with the registry, that is, we temporarily extend the > registration for the name, and if, at the end of the 40 day grace period the > name is not renewed, then we send a command to the registry to delete the > name. (Paul, I know you've put that in quotes, and I assume you're just simplifying things, but if you make it sound like a special case, then folks are going to lose much of the benefit of this lesson...) I could be wrong. But I've never seen auto-renewals explained like that. MOST REGISTRIES (at least the gtlds) automatically renew domain names and bill the registrar for the renewal. However, they refund the charge for the auto-renewal as long as the domain is deleted within 45 days (or some such period). This has led to various problems and issues, including these bogus expiry dates from registry whois servers. It also causes (or caused?) a problem where if you let a domain expire, then renew it, then change registrars inside that 45 day window, you lose the renewal you paid for. This autorenewal behaviour also explains why you don't want to trust expiry dates as shown from csrnic and the thick registries (all gtlds but ..com/.net AFAIK) ... at least not if it is a month or two since the domain's aniversary date, and the domain is showing an expiration date 10 or 11 months in the future, and the last modified date is suspiciously close to the just past aniversary date. -Tom _______________________________________________ domains-gen mailing list [email protected] http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen _______________________________________________ domains-gen mailing list [email protected] http://discuss.tucows.com/mailman/listinfo/domains-gen
