FYI, VB was introduced in 1991, not the 80s. http://safari.oreilly.com/main.asp?bookname=vbdotnetnut&cnode=11
David L. Penton, Microsoft MVP JCPenney Technical Specialist / Lead "Mathematics is music for the mind, and Music is Mathematics for the Soul. - J.S. Bach" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you have the VBScript Docs or SQL BOL installed? If not, why not? VBScript Docs: http://www.davidpenton.com/vbscript SQL BOL: http://www.davidpenton.com/sqlbol -----Original Message----- From: Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Magnus, maybe Peter Kinev just wants a skirmish to shake up the Friday doldrums. I've been programming in VB since VB3 in the 1980's and watched it improve regularly through the constant fog of other programmers predicting its demise. In its current articulation, VB.NET, there's virtually NOTHING you can't do with it. I've worked on a wide range of projects and I can't even REMEMBER the couple of things C# can do that VB can't... they're insignificant to any real work I do. While the language features are nearly identical between C# and VB, VB in the Visual Studio environment has big bonuses over C#. Intellisense (which helps type code for you) is more completely implemented for VB, and VB's long-standing IDE presentation of control procedures and functions and events in convenient pull-down lists has been preserved in the VS.NET IDE, making it much easier to work with them. So no, you don't have to learn C# but you do have an uphill task learning VB.NET. VB is now even more different from VBScript than it used to be. It has *some* similarities to VB6 or VB5, if you have experience with those, since those versions of VB supported classes/objects and some other aspects of object-oriented programming. That stuff is the foundation of .NET, which makes it very different from the procedural script you're used to writing. I recommend Jesse Liberty's "Programming ASP.NET" (O'Reilly) to start. Even it may be tough slogging at times, but it's the clearest and best-focused of several books I bought. Microsoft's "Applied .NET Framework Programming" by Jeffrey Richter is solid. And I've found most of the titles in Wrox Press' new "Handbook" series to be good (better than many of their big fat drones) especially the ones on Class Design and Text Manipulation. And there's TONS of stuff on the web, including Microsoft's http://www.asp.net and http://www.dotnetjunkies.com and many others. The one thing you shouldn't waste a moment on are the rumblings of the anti-Microsoft cult. When .NET was but a twinkle in Microsoft's eye, cult members were confidently predicting that Java and the Sun paradigm would take over the world. Even software giant Corel jumped on board, but over time the enthusiasm for this world has become as sluggish as the applications it has produced. .NET is - or should be - throwing a huge scare into them as they vacillate between defending their crumbling ramparts and joining the other side. Ask yourself, what's Peter Kinev doing on a dotnet list? :-) No, I don't work for MS. :-) Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Kinev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Magnus, I am afraid you have not too much choice. In order to progress in line with MS you have to learn C# and forget about VB. That is what .NET about. I made my choice � I will stay with Java and Open Source based development environment. Peter. "Magnus Simonarson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello > >Seeing the subject and it's Friday, what sorta book would a regular ASP >programmer need to get into .net stuff. �I know Visual Basic (vbscript >of course) and would like to continue using that rather than C# > >Magnus > >-----Original Message----- >From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Meaning that >1) you personally can't think of any good books, >2) No books exists that are good at explaining how to fully use Visual >Studio, or >3) You're scared of the question? > >Matthew Small >IT Supervisor >Showstopper National Dance Competitions >3660 Old Kings Hwy >Murrells Inlet, SC 29576 >843-357-1847 >http://www.showstopperonline.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Black, John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Uh, no! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Anybody have any good recommendations on books that teach how to fully >use Visual Studio.net? > >Matthew Small >IT Supervisor >Showstopper National Dance Competitions >3660 Old Kings Hwy >Murrells Inlet, SC 29576 >843-357-1847 >http://www.showstopperonline.com --- You are currently subscribed to dotnet as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------- Administrated by 15 Seconds : http://www.15Seconds.com List Archives/Search : http://local.15Seconds.com/search Subscription Information : http://www.15seconds.com/listserv.htm Advertising Information: http://www.internet.com/mediakit/
