&15seconds,

I don't know what to say. Is this the best what you can do?

David, I am not trying to get under your skin. You seem to me know the subject. Can 
you give the answers on my questions? What I am really asking, can you tell us your 
vision on the future of .NET and role of C# - VB in this future? I promise, I will 
publish my analysis as I see it. I don't want to upstate you. I hope the list wants to 
know that as well.

Best regards,
Peter Kinev.




 
"Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>Peter, if you take the time to learn about .NET instead of just flaming
>it the "why" of C# and .NET will become obvious.
>
>The .NET Framework contains a whole lot of higher-level methods behind
>which commonly-required code is already written for developers. �To
>create many common application features, what used to take dozens or
>hundreds of lines of code in C++ can now be done in a few in either C#
>or VB. �Do you really need more reason than that to explain C# and .NET?
>
>OK. �VB, with a huge base of users looking for more flexibility and
>power for developing adaptable/reusable code, needed to be upgraded.
>C++ needed to allow easy use of the powerful .NET Framework, a giant
>timesaver over MFC. �Both needed to support much faster development of
>the very common requirements that kept showing up in development
>projects. �These needs together presented an opportunity for convergence
>between the languages... as you said yourself, having developer skills
>widely split into two VB and C++ camps was sometimes costly. �Need more?
>
>OK. �Now developers who never made it past "Hello, world" in C++ are
>finding after learning VB.NET that they can read C#.NET code, and vice
>versa. �I can already hire a .NET developer instead of looking for a VB
>developer to handle some parts of our projects and a C++ programmer to
>handle others. �C++ developers who have morphed their skills to C# can
>now help develop web-based applications that were for many of them a
>completely foreign world in the past. �A developer's favoured language
>is going to matter even less as .NET is more widely absorbed.
>
>Maybe one day there will be only one language. �It should for sure be VB
>- those confusing curly braces and excessive punctuation have gotta go -
>but there's a chance some may disagree with that. �:-) �Either way,
>.NET's design ensures that this debate is a lot less important than it
>used to be.
>
>Hey Peter, I wasn't happy either to have to re-learn how to build
>applications... I'm still struggling with it! �But I can already see
>that my little company is going to make money more easily with .NET. �I
>wouldn't consider flouncing off elsewhere in a huff in order to punish
>Microsoft for forcing me to learn .NET. �I'm pretty sure that people who
>do that are going to be eating bittersweet revenge while I eat Black
>Angus filet mignon.
>
>HTH
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Kinev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:37 PM
>To: dotnet
>Subject: RE: Good book on using asp.net using vb
>
>
>I happen to remember "old good time" too (360/370, well before VB!).
>BTW, David you saved me from inflaming this list with correction of
>&15seconds about VB timing. Thank you. Now, David can you give me the
>rational behind decision of MS to introduce C# in .NET? Reasonable
>people will ask why to fix anything what works? IMHO, the C# is very
>good language indeed. No joke. But, would it be slightly cumbersome to
>maintain few equally important environments. I know from my experience
>working in development of one of the principal UNIX flavor how it's
>difficult to do something like that.
>
>And, LIST please try do not put words in my mouth. Let's use intelligent
>arguments. Best regards, Peter Kinev.
>
>
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