Kim,
What about the current build requires VS and can't be done with the latest
SDK?
Glenn
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Kim Gräsman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Glenn,
>
> Yeah, I'm mostly worried about developer orientation. I don't want to
> make myself the only maintainer :-)
>
> And the tooling for C++ is more and more of a problem, I don't have
> Visual Studio on this machine, for example, so I can't do any
> significant changes...
>
> But I think it makes sense to move this into the core.
>
> Thanks,
> - Kim
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 20:48, Glenn Carr <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Kim,
> >
> > I don't think you can go wrong moving more of DQSD into C++. The only
> real
> > downside that I see is it limiting the number of developers that might be
> > willing of have the experienced to work on it, but since a significant
> > portion is C++ now, I don't think that should even be a concern.
> Honestly,
> > I'd love to see everything except configurable aspects (searches, etc) of
> > the tool moved into C++.
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Kim Gräsman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I've spent a little time investigating the Vista "blank window" issues
> >> that have been raised on the users list, and come up with a couple of
> >> ideas.
> >>
> >> There are two things you can launch from DQSD, a) searches and b) URLs
> >> (and a couple of other things, but let's leave it at that).
> >>
> >> Then there's a setting that affects how these launches are performed
> >> -- the launchmode, which can be 0) Use IE or 1) Use default browser.
> >>
> >> So there's essentially a behavior matrix for what happens in the
> >> respective cases-
> >>
> >> 0
> >> 1
> >> a form.submit Write out .html
> >> file to submit form in body onload + ShellExecute(file)
> >> b window.open + window.navigate ShellExecute(URL)
> >>
> >> Most of these methods have one issue or another with IE's new
> >> Protected Mode, because DQSD runs in un-PM, but launches searches and
> >> URLs that require PM, so there tends to be a lot of intermediary
> >> windows launched that bridge between the two modes.
> >>
> >> As if this wasn't complicated enough to follow, all cases with
> >> launchmode 0 happen in script, and all cases with launchmode 1 happen
> >> inside DQSDTools.Launcher.
> >>
> >> I'm wondering whether there would be value in moving all this logic
> >> into DQSDTools, and moving the actual logic to a simple class
> >> hierarchy of Launchers. Something like-
> >>
> >> class Launcher
> >> {
> >> public:
> >> virtual void SubmitForm(IHTMLFormElement* pForm, VARIANT options);
> >> virtual void LaunchUrl(BSTR url, VARIANT options);
> >> };
> >>
> >> and then with implementations for the respective launch modes, say,
> >> IELauncher and DefaultBrowserLauncher.
> >>
> >> The primary benefit of having the complete logic in C++ code, is that
> >> we can (hopefully) use new Vista APIs to safely bridge between
> >> un-protected and protected mode.
> >>
> >> What's also cool about this is that we can easily select
> >> implementation based on launchmode, and adding a launchmode is as
> >> simple as adding a new implementation...
> >>
> >> ...which leads me to another thing: we should probably add a new
> >> launchmode called Explicit, which comes with an explicit browser path.
> >> That way, users can launch their searches with a specific browser.
> >> This should please the x64 crowd, who want to use the 32-bit Internet
> >> Explorer even if DQSD runs in the 64-bit version of the browser.
> >>
> >> So... Anyone opposed to moving form submittal/URL launching entirely
> >> into DQSDTools? What are the drawbacks I don't see?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> - Kim
> >>
> >>
> >>
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