Bill,

"A man has to know his limitations" is a good rule to follow.? Working on HV 
power supplies is not rocket science but, like high altitude and the ocean, is 
very unforgiving of mistakes.? You want a clear?mind, no fatigue, and no 
distractions.??Even an undetected mistake while the power is off can have 
dramatic consequences when you power things up for the first time after a 
repair.? I've rebuilt a number of L4B and L7 supplies and if I can assist you 
with any questions that you have, please feel free to ask.

73,

Evan, k9SQG


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake L-4B







Thanks!

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As soon as I get the amp I will look. I dont know how to work on 2500v power 
supplies and dont want to kill myself. Who is the L4B power supply guru that 
can check out the power supply and fix anything that needs fixing?

?

Bill

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake L-4B
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 10:28 AM



Re: bleeders on L4B and L7 supplies.

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There are two sets of resistors that serve as "bleeders".? The first set is 
comprised of two 50 K resistors that are mounted to the transformer tabs on the 
top end of the supply; they are in series with a 5K 7wt resistor on the 
underside of the supply (for ALC purposes if one uses the ALC function).? This 
is the true bleeder string that has lower resistance than the "other" string.

?

The other string is a series of 100K 2wt resistors, one each across each of the 
electrolytic capacitors.? They are designed to equalize the voltage across each 
of the capacitors but, indirectly, they do place a load on the supply that can 
also serve as a "bleeder" but are not as effective as the primary string; since 
these equalizing resistors have a resistance that is roughly 8 times higher 
than the primary string, they won't help as much with regulation and it will 
take them longer to bleed down the DC when the supply is turned off.

I believe in keeping things as original as possible unless there is a known 
shortcoming.? Here too, it is a matter of preference in terms of which approach 
to use.? If one eliminates the two 50K resistors to save heat, then some other 
mechanism must be provided to provide 120 vdc for the ALC circuit.? When 
one/both of the 50K resistors opens, it can also affect the ALC circuit.? And 
when that 5k 7wt resistor opens, it takes out the ALC pot which hasn't been 
available for decades.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 9:32 am
Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake L-4B








Evan and John,

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Thanks for the responses, 

I am not sure about the bleeders?this is what the guy who sold me the amp told 
me.

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Where are the bleeders located? and as soon as the amp show up if you could 
help me figure this out it and we will identify the harbach mod and then we can 
see if there are any other mods that need to be done.

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73

Bill

K9BUB



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake L-4B
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 7:45 AM


Bill,

I'm not sure which Harbach mod(s) you are referring to.? There is a step-start 
for the high voltage, step-start for the filaments, replacement rectifier and 
capacitor board, and which sort of determines what else you might do.? 

When I rebuild supplies I replace just about everything except the power 
transformer, and with components that have better ratings than the original.? 
One important mod is to replace the 5K 7wt resistor on the underside of the 
supply with a 20 watt equivalent; your unobtainable ALC pot will thank you for 
it.

I also place one or two fans on top of the supply.? I use a model that is 220v 
but will start and run reliably on 110v.? It is so quiet you can't hear it and 
it brings the case temperature down dramatically.

73,

Evan, K9SQG


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:56 pm
Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake L-4B







I just found out the the L-4B?has the?Harbach mod and the bleeder resistors 
were removed to eliminate excessive heat.

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Is there anything else I need to do to the power supply?

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Thanks!

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73 de

Bill

K9BUB

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake L-4B
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 2:41 PM


I would think 20A would be fine unless the run is long, then I'd opt for 30A.? 
Be aware that pin arrangements for the plug and socket change for the various 
ratings.

Even if the PS is working ok with the amp, I always replace the 5K 7wt resistor 
on the underside of the supply with a 5K equivalent, 20 watt rating.? When the 
original resistor fails, it takes out the ALC pot that also contains the 
standby switch; these haven't been available for decades.


-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Calvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake L-4B


I ran a 20A line for my Alpha 99.? Works great.

????????73,? Duane?? AC5AA


At 01:23 PM 7/28/2008, you wrote:


Just bought a Drake L-4B amp and while I am waiting for the amp to arrive I had 
the electrician over. He wants to know what everyone is running for their 240V 
line. 15, 20 or 30 amp service.

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Thanks!

?

73 de

Bill

K9BUB


Duane Calvin, AC5AA
Austin, Texas
www.ac5aa.com 


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