Hi Bob:

I think I started the Silenx fan stuff...they are amazingly quiet and the difference in heat is outstanding.

On the RTTY tune up, I just tune it up as per a CW or full SSB setup, then set the soundcard to Tx RYRYRY...run the TX gain up until it stops increasing the Ip, then back off a little bit. This should be approximately where the setting would be normally..ie if it is very hi or very low, adjust the output volume level of the sound card.

As others have mentioned, you might want to back off a little more as the duty cycle goes up, but contest mode is very brief exchanges.

Curt
KU8L


On 1/5/2012 12:08 PM, Robert Fish wrote:
Alright I'm back, real life intervened for 12 or 15 hours since I asked the RTTY question.

Thanks for the help guys. The first thing I thought of when I decided to do this was Garey's stories about running 4 line gear on RTTY 24/7 and it lasted for years. So I figured I had some margin for error here. My main concern was not so much wearing out the rig, it was having a sloppy signal and annoying everyone on the band. I was pretty sure I wanted to set it right before the ALC started kicking in, but I wasn't sure how to find that spot. Right before the output curve flattens out, it makes total sense now, but for some reason it eluded me. Also, I wondered about the RTTY shift circuit in the T-4XC but forgot to ask about it. Garey did a nice job of explaining that as well. In fact, I fixed another T-4XC a few years ago that had a shorted transistor in that circuit that caused the TX to always be 500HZ, or whatever, low. Garey pointed me in the right direction on that one also.

I already have a fan on the back of the PA cage, (a Silenex that someone on the list recommended a while back) it works great. You would be hard pressed to feel any heat at all with your hand right on top of the finals after a long transmission (I've tried it, it's amazing). Hey, come to think of it, is installing a fan on the T-4XC considered a MOD?........................................just kidding, don't get started again. My wife is right, I am a born troublemaker. Well, I'm through here, I have some cables to make if I am going to do this.

Thanks again for the help,

Bob  K6GGO




Bob -

The C-Line does fine for RTTY. The transmitter has a jack on the back panel marked RTTY that when shorted shifts the carrier a bit to ensure that both tones (2125 - 2975 Hz 850 Hz shift,)were passed through the LSB filter unattenuated. It was originally designed when we were still using 850 shift, but is no longer of any value for today's (2125 - 2295 Hz 170 Hz shift) and should be left open.

I ran multiple 4 Series transmitters on RTTY for some years, at full power and with transmissions of 30 minutes or more. You have to run them just UNDER the ALC threshold (just below where the output levels off) as you increase GAIN. PA tubes lasted a couple of years that way, with 'end of life' at 100W output max on 14.075 MHz. Obviously a small fan is a BIG help, either on top (blowing UP) or on the rear panel of the PA cage (blowing OUT).

For contest type transmissions (excepting 10 minute CQs!) I wouldn't hesitate to use full power, about 340 mA. If you make long CQs, I'd back it down to about 300 mA. (~ 100W output) and the PA tubes will last 'forever'.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>


Robert Fish wrote:
I have been thinking about using my C-line for the RTTY contest this weekend. How do I set the transmit audio (gain) level. Do I set it the same as SSB where the peaks are about 150ma? I am not set up here for FSK, so its going to be a sound card affair.
Any general advice for C-line RTTY?

Thanks,

Bob  K6GGO




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