On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 9:56 AM Daniel Vetter <dan...@ffwll.ch> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 03:40:42PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:31 PM Daniel Vetter <dan...@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 PM Alex Deucher <alexdeuc...@gmail.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:23 AM Daniel Vetter <dan...@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 04:12:09AM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Sam,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 10:40:00AM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 04:15:05AM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > > > > > The DRM CRTC helpers add default modes to connectors in the 
> > > > > > > > connected
> > > > > > > > state if no mode can be retrieved from the connector. This 
> > > > > > > > behaviour is
> > > > > > > > useful for VGA or DVI outputs that have no connected DDC bus. 
> > > > > > > > However,
> > > > > > > > in such cases, the status of the output usually can't be 
> > > > > > > > retrieved and
> > > > > > > > is reported as connector_status_unknown.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Extend the addition of default modes to connectors in an 
> > > > > > > > unknown state
> > > > > > > > to support outputs that can retrieve neither the modes nor the
> > > > > > > > connection status.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Laurent Pinchart 
> > > > > > > > <laurent.pinchart+rene...@ideasonboard.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From your description sounds like an OK approach.
> > > > > > > But this is not something I feel too familiar with.
> > > > > > > Acked-by: Sam Ravnborg <s...@ravnborg.org>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the ack. I'd like to have Daniel's (CC'ed) feedback on 
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Makes sense, and at least pre-coffee me can't immediately think of a
> > > > > scenario where we're going to regret this. _unknown status is pretty 
> > > > > much
> > > > > limited to old VGA and similar things where load detect somehow isn't 
> > > > > well
> > > > > supported by the hw.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reviewed-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vet...@ffwll.ch>
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > >  drivers/gpu/drm/drm_probe_helper.c       | 3 ++-
> > > > > > > >  include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h | 8 +++++++-
> > > > > > > >  2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_probe_helper.c 
> > > > > > > > b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_probe_helper.c
> > > > > > > > index f5d141e0400f..9055d9573c90 100644
> > > > > > > > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_probe_helper.c
> > > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_probe_helper.c
> > > > > > > > @@ -491,7 +491,8 @@ int 
> > > > > > > > drm_helper_probe_single_connector_modes(struct drm_connector 
> > > > > > > > *connector,
> > > > > > > >   if (count == 0 && connector->status == 
> > > > > > > > connector_status_connected)
> > > > > > > >           count = drm_add_override_edid_modes(connector);
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - if (count == 0 && connector->status == 
> > > > > > > > connector_status_connected)
> > > > > > > > + if (count == 0 && (connector->status == 
> > > > > > > > connector_status_connected ||
> > > > > > > > +                    connector->status == 
> > > > > > > > connector_status_unknown))
> > > > > > > >           count = drm_add_modes_noedid(connector, 1024, 768);
> > > > > > > >   count += drm_helper_probe_add_cmdline_mode(connector);
> > > > > > > >   if (count == 0)
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h 
> > > > > > > > b/include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h
> > > > > > > > index 421a30f08463..afe55e2e93d2 100644
> > > > > > > > --- a/include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h
> > > > > > > > +++ b/include/drm/drm_modeset_helper_vtables.h
> > > > > > > > @@ -876,13 +876,19 @@ struct drm_connector_helper_funcs {
> > > > > > > >    * The usual way to implement this is to cache the EDID 
> > > > > > > > retrieved in the
> > > > > > > >    * probe callback somewhere in the driver-private connector 
> > > > > > > > structure.
> > > > > > > >    * In this function drivers then parse the modes in the EDID 
> > > > > > > > and add
> > > > > > > > -  * them by calling drm_add_edid_modes(). But connectors that 
> > > > > > > > driver a
> > > > > > > > +  * them by calling drm_add_edid_modes(). But connectors that 
> > > > > > > > drive a
> > > > > > > >    * fixed panel can also manually add specific modes using
> > > > > > > >    * drm_mode_probed_add(). Drivers which manually add modes 
> > > > > > > > should also
> > > > > > > >    * make sure that the &drm_connector.display_info,
> > > > > > > >    * &drm_connector.width_mm and &drm_connector.height_mm 
> > > > > > > > fields are
> > > > > > > >    * filled in.
> > > > > > > >    *
> > > > > > > > +  * Note that the caller function will automatically add 
> > > > > > > > standard VESA
> > > > > > > > +  * DMT modes up to 1024x768 if the .get_modes() helper 
> > > > > > > > operation returns
> > > > > > > > +  * no mode and if the connector status is 
> > > > > > > > connector_status_connected or
> > > > > > > > +  * connector_status_unknown. There is no need to call
> > > > > > > > +  * drm_add_edid_modes() manually in that case.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hm calling drm_add_edid_modes if you have no edid is a bit a funny 
> > > > > idea
> > > > > ... Personally I'd just leave out the last sentence, I think that only
> > > > > confuses readers. Or I'm not grasphing what you're trying to tell 
> > > > > here.
> > > >
> > > > IIRC, some drivers used and desktop environments expected unknown
> > > > rather than off for LVDS/eDP panels when the lid was shut or if the
> > > > mux was switched to another device in the case of hybrid laptops.
> > >
> > > We seem to have totally ditched that in
> > >
> > > commit 05c72e77ccda89ff624108b1b59a0fc43843f343
> > > Author: Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrj...@linux.intel.com>
> > > Date:   Tue Jul 17 20:42:14 2018 +0300
> > >
> > >     drm/i915: Nuke the LVDS lid notifier
> > >
> > > No screaming yet.
> > >
> > > But I'm also a bit confused, for a panel there's generally an edid
> > > around, or a fixed (list of) modes. That's enough to stop this
> > > fallback from running, so should be all fine.
> >
> > No, you are right; you will have the EDID so this shouldn't be an
> > issue.  I was mis-remembering the original issue.  We originally
> > always reported connected for LVDS in radeon if the panel was present,
> > but then we got flack because some userspace expected unknown in
> > certain cases (e.g., lid or muxed displays).  Either way the EDID info
> > is still there.
>
> Yeah I think i915 started that habit, but I guess people realized it's
> unreliable enough that they should have their own lid handler in the
> desktop enviromnent doing whatever they want to do on lid close.
>
> Should we perhaps document that somewhere, that panels are always marked
> as connected? Not even sure where to put that in the docs ...
>
> Maybe adding a few of the usual suspects from the compositor side, Simon,
> Pekka?

Actually adding Simon and Pekka this time around ...

> -Daniel
>
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> > > -Daniell
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Alex
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > r-b with or without this change since imo super tiny nit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers, Daniel
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > +  *
> > > > > > > >    * Virtual drivers that just want some standard VESA mode 
> > > > > > > > with a given
> > > > > > > >    * resolution can call drm_add_modes_noedid(), and mark the 
> > > > > > > > preferred
> > > > > > > >    * one using drm_set_preferred_mode().
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Laurent Pinchart
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Daniel Vetter
> > > > > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > > > > http://blog.ffwll.ch
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Vetter
> > > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > > http://blog.ffwll.ch
>
> --
> Daniel Vetter
> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> http://blog.ffwll.ch



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Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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