On Mon Jan 19, 2026 at 3:18 PM CET, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 02:13:48PM +0100, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> On Mon Jan 19, 2026 at 1:54 PM CET, Daniel Almeida wrote:
>> >> On 19 Jan 2026, at 09:35, Alice Ryhl <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> I think that if you still want an API where you just call enable/disable
>> >> directly on it with no protection against unbalanced calls, then that
>> >> should be the special API. Probably called RawClk and functions marked
>> >> unsafe. Unbalanced calls seem really dangerous and use should not be
>> >> encouraged.
>> 
>> +1; and unless there is a use-case that requires otherwise, it should not 
>> even
>> be possible to do this at all -- at least for driver code.
>
> I mean, it's great, it's safe, etc. but it's also suboptimal from a PM
> perspective on many platforms. It's totally fine to provide nice, safe,
> ergonomic wrappers for the drivers that don't care (or can't, really),
> but treating a legitimate optimisation as something we should consider
> impossible to do is just weird to me.

I said that an unsafe API with potentially unbalanced calls is something we
should clearly avoid for drivers. This is *not* equivalent to "treating a
legitimate optimisation as something we should consider impossible".

If we discover use-cases where the current API doesn't work well, we can
invenstigate further.

>> > I think we should discourage RawClk if at all possible. But if the 
>> > consensus
>> > is that we *really* need this easily-abused thing, I can provide a 
>> > follow-up.
>> 
>> I think we should only do this if there are use-case with no alternative, so 
>> far
>> there haven't been any AFAIK.
>
> I don't really care about which alternative we come up with, but look at
> devm_regmap_init_mmio_clk for example. It is a valid use-case that
> already exists today, and has had for more than a decade at this point.

I don't see the issue with devm_regmap_init_mmio_clk()? It takes a reference
count of the clock and prepares it when called and unprepares the clk in drops
its reference in regmap_mmio_free_context() called from the devres callback.

That something we can easily do with the current API, no?

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