On 2002.06.12 21:53 Alan Hourihane wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 02:28:45 -0600, Jens Owen wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > I'm certainly as guilty as anyone for letting the cruft build up in the
> > SF bug tracker.  However, from a TG commercial perspective, I will need
> > to closely track all bugs specifically related for certain DRI
> > projects.  I can track those on a private internal database, or I can
> > do it on an open DRI database.  Either will work for me.  However, I do
> > think tracking on an open DRI database would be better for the DRI
> > project; and I would prefer to use the slow SF bug database then take
> > on the much larger task of setting up a new system.
> 

Jens, although I understand that TG needs to track bugs, this by itself 
isn't enough to guarantee that the SF bug database is adequate. Even if we 
do clean it as Alan suggests, unless everyone agrees to give it the proper 
use [and acts accordingly after] then it's just a matter of time to 
everything happens again, and everyone will loose:

  - users have 3 places to post bugs, and it's not clear which is ideal 
(it's not the first time I read on dri-devel "I already posted this on 
dri-users but got no answer...")

  - developers have three places to monitor where at least of them [SF bug 
database] doesn't appeal to them, so it will be ignored most of the time.

  - TG doesn't have a real bug database as most of the bugs eventually get 
reported on dri-devel [where they are most likely answered], and most of 
those which are reported on SF probably aren't valid or close since no one 
really looks at them.
    What TG gets it's a endless list of problems reports which requires 
annual maintainance [in other words, removal...]

I really hoped from this discussion that this wouldn't happen, i.e., 
making the same mistakes 2nd time...

> We really need to clean up the stuff on SF now. Probably about 90%
> don't even apply now, or should at least be re-tested.

If the SF bug database goes on, then I may ask: Who here plans to plans to 
answer and follow the bug reports?

I'd prefer that we _truly_ agree on a viable solution rather than just 
appearently agree on an assumed impossible solution...

Well, just my 2c...

José Fonseca

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