Howzit Frank? > > Quite frankly (no pun intended) IRC logs are about the only thing out of > > place, and when I look at that page I wonder if I should remove them, > > however your idea to split documentation back out of help will draw > > attention back to them on that page meaning they can be safely removed. > > Ok, I would remove CVS and IRC Logs from that page. They should > re-appear on the "Contribute" page. IRC is already gone, I'm leaving CVS there (for now at least) because <you know who you are> is working on scripts to pull CVs, compile etc > > I must disagree on this point (I need persuasion perhaps a really good > > example / implementation where it works well) because help & status pages > > are the longest pages they could benefit from it the most (at all) but > > I like your other suggestions so much that they are about to become shorter > > and the colour banding makes it a dead simple after that. > > If you don't want to add it then that's ok. But I still feel it is hard > to get an overview of what one can find on a page. Maybe put a more detailed site outline on the home page. (see below)
> Another way to give a better overview might be to change the font to > something more crisp and readable. I really like Arial or Helvetica for > reading stuff on the web. You could also try increasing the font size by > one. Yeah I must have a look at that, the CSS is not behaving perfectly now that it is inserted via PHP, but this could just be me, the pages on my machine are obviously not rendered as they will be when they are being served up via the webserver so its difficult to guage the effects of changes. But heck it's one file to change cant be that hard. <g> > It would also be good if the titles for items on a page were a bigger > font size, in addition to being bold/underlined. That would make them > stand out a lot better. As above. > > > A few other things I can think of to change in the current site are: > > I think you misunderstood me, the points below apply to the current > site, not your site update. They are just my ideas for what should > change, but it appears you have already addressed a lot of them. > > I should have payed closer attention to your site update before writing > them up. Understood. > > I'm sort of lost I understand the php header funcion and what it did / > > does but HTML headers? > > What I mean is that it should output the title for a page. On your site > that would be the two horizontal bars with the title in between. So then > the source for a page is basically: > > <? dri_header ("Downloads"); ?> > > [ HTML content here ] > > <? dri_footer (); ?> > > Then if you want to change the basic appearance of a page (title, > header/footer) you can do it in those two functions. Also saves you from > reusing the same header/footer HTML in every page over and over again. Did this already (guess what I was doing monday night instead of economics) > > There is no "About DRI" page. There is currently "What is the DRI" text > > on the home page already. Junk on the home page? Please be more specific, > > there is obviously some confusion here are we looking at the same page? > > Sorry, I ment the current site, not your site update. However, looking > at yours I think you should remove the stuff below the "Mailing Lists" > section. It shouldn't really be necessary to explain the different > links, I just put that on the original page as a filler. Well actually this is similar in concept to your content navigation bar, or at least it could be extended to do this, comments? > > There is one downloads page already?? Although it does have IRC logs, and > > a CVS section (waiting on someone here). More confusion, same page? > > Yes, your Downloads page is good. I would remove CVS and IRC Logs. Also > I would put the config files as the very last item, because I doubt many > people downloads those. CVS stays for now (see above) IRC is long gone, will move config files. > > > - remove the "Report Problems" stuff from the Help & FAQ page since we > > > don't use the SF.net bugtracker anyway. > > Will do, I read about this on the mailing list, but I'm not going to remove > > it just because I think nobody wants it. > > Thinking about this, a better idea might be to say that bugs should be > reported on the dri-devel mailing list. If we do that and it results in > too much traffic/crappy bug reports it can be removed later. But giving > people some way to report bugs is probably a good idea. Must still add some text about report bugs to dri-devel. > > > In the end this leaves us with these pages: > > > > > > 1. Home - with the "About DRI" text, a nice intro to the project > > I think this is how it is. > > > 2. Status - the status of the hardware we support > > With 5 this is how it will be. > > > > > 3. Downloads - downloads of drivers, kernel modules, and other files > > Pretty much identical already. > > > > > 4. Documentation - all of our documentation for developers and end users > > This I like it was a dubious call to combine help & faq & documentation. > > > > > 5. Contribute - information useful to developers > > I like this as well. > > > > > 6. Help & FAQ - the FAQ and links to the mailing lists and archives > > If 4. is done this is exactly how it will be. (in other words documentation > > is in there right now.) > > > > > 7. Project - link to the project page > > Exactly as it is / was / always has been / will be. > > > > What I think - read the comments. That is how it was done I have various > > DRI sites eg new, old , update sitting on my HDD. > > Ok, I am glad we agree on the page layout. Yes well a little motivation eg why it must be done xyz way, goes a long way to convincing me. > > I must say I appreciate your input / opinions / requests if have been trying > > to obtain this sort of thing from people a while back I'd pretty much given > > up on getting any more than I already got. > > Great. I am happy you didn't take this as an insult. :) I try to be difficult to insult, and I never take email seriously, not what I read and not what I write, makes for some interesting situations occasionally I should probably add <g> to my .sig but then that would create confusion when discussing things of a more technical nature. > Two more things that really bug me... :) > > 1. The large top frame with the logo takes up a lot of screen space. I > really don't think it's needed and it would look nicer if you removed it > or made it smaller. It's staying but it could be made smaller. <g> Going from a 14" to a 17" and bumping the resolution means I don't notice shortages of screen real estate. > 2. I think you should remove the border around the main logo on the home > page. ie: border=0 for the IMG tag. Could have sworn that leaving teh tag out means that should be no border, html standards pah! cheers Liam ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel