The whole "zone" concept really is dependent on the DOA (marketing wise) 10 gHz backbone system, using ATM to bring multiple controllers together to provide the zone and optionally share a gateway.

A smart controller/gateway would operate the same way whether attached to the Internet or not. In fact, it would make the air protocol more logical. In its simplest form the controller/gateway would implement the idea behind a Forwarding Information Base (FIB) only on the D-STAR frame addresses (callsigns) rather than on IP addresses. If the DST or UR address was last seen on one of the attached repeaters, forward the frame there, if not send it to the remote controller/gateway through encapsulation (e.g. IP over the Internet). If RPT2 is set, it overrides the UR field for forwarding, the controller/gateway just sends it to that designated local repeater, if not local, forward it to the proper controller/gateway and let it in turn use its FIB to send it to the right repeater.

I think David's (G4ULF) original design is much smarter, combine the controller with the gateway function. An ITX motherboard with CF or SD storage is economical, potentially low power, and can contain a lot of intelligence. If Icom had designed their controller that way, the "G" port would be unnecessary -- if they could do a firmware upgrade so that by default all traffic was sent to the gateway computer, the same would be true.

That a user needs to know about a "G" port, is inefficient and not really logical. You either want to talk to K7VE or you want to send a call to K7VE (or CQCQCQ) at a given repeater (by using RPT2).

On Jul 27, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Woodrick, Ed wrote:


Don’t forget the original design of DSTAR with the zones and multiple stacks in a zone. Also, don’t forget that there are repeaters that aren’t attached to a gateway computer and may never be. That’s one of the biggest reasons for the G routing in my mind.



Ed WA4YIH


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John Hays
Amateur Radio: K7VE
j...@hays.org

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