is this really dstar related???? Fran Signature
-- Fran <http://www.miele-family.com/weather> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:24 PM, John Hays <j...@hays.org> wrote: > > > While I have strong opinions about personal rights and society's needs, > particularly as relates to both HOAs and the way this country provides > healthcare -- this topic should be moved off list. > > (And what is being proposed in the US is not Socialized medicine, the UK > has socialized medicine, read government owned and operated -- we are about > the only developed country that doesn't provide universal healthcare and > there are a lot of models, not just the socialized medicine of the UK which > the insurance companies have used as their boogie man. See > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_healthcare to see the various > approaches -- if you want to discuss off list, please email me directly.) > > On Jan 20, 2010, at 3:16 PM, David Holman wrote: > > > Hey Barry, > > Actually they did. The first freedom they took was your freedom of > choice. And in some areas, its not a choice of living in an HOA > controlled commune or not, its a choice of which one is worse, which is no > choice. If you don't want to live in a commune, you have to move > ridiculously far away (like here). We chose the school district. To live > in the school district, we have to live in an HOA controlled commune. I > didn't choose to join the HOA, I chose the house. HOAs are NOT voluntary > membership organizations. The HOA was forced on me. They didn't give me a > choice about whether or not I wanted to join. They took my freedom of > choice. And until everyone starts to see it this way, we will continue to > loose our rights daily. It is NOT OK, customary, normal or acceptable to > take individual rights and freedoms, for any reason outside of the fact that > a person has proven they can't handle them. You moved into a non-commune > area, but you didn't give up any rights. You don't have the right to tell > your neighbor anything about how to run his life, in the first place. If > it is not health or safety related or somehow interacts with you, you have > no right to force any your beliefs on your neighbor (what is pretty or > aesthetically pleasing is a belief). If you are afraid of your neighbors, I > would suggest moving into an apartment where the property owner does have > the right to tell the residents what they can and can't do on his property. > Become friends with the property owner. > > 73 > > David, AC7DS > > ___ > > > John D. Hays > Amateur Radio Station K7VE <http://k7ve.org> > PO Box 1223 > Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 > VOIP/SIP: j...@hays.org > Email: j...@hays.org > > >
