Thats why God gave us 2 ears and 1 mouth - so we can listen twice as much as we talk.......

Tom
GM4FDM



Larry Van Horn wrote:
As a little pistol, who works some good DX from time to time, I find the biggest problem is that those who appear to act like idiots when DX appears, simply aren't "listening." They have a microphone in their hands that they paid for and they plan on using it by God, and the rest of us be damned. It is their goal to be one of the early ones to claim victory over the rest of us.

My motto has always been listen-listen-listen and it gives me a major edge over the mob. And I have no fear giving out my secret because most don't care. They want the hammer down regardless.

I find it pretty sick to hear someone say thanks for the second or third contact with this mode and band, and I am still trying to work them the first time ever. Funny thing is it seems to be the same pinheads over and over. And no one nationality has a monopoly on this bad behavior. Their is just a group who are lewd, crude and socially unacceptable. It is a fact of life we have to deal with. I have learned where the tuning knob is and when it gets to bad, the on/off button is.

The best part of it all, I hear their callsigns and I can determine first hand who the DX idiot are. They are the ones I won't have a qso with or hand out a contest contact. I just love it all when a plan comes together.

At birth, you were given two ears and one mouth. What does that say you should do more of. I am looking foward to Descheo and I am sure more calls will make my personal hall of shame.

73

Larry Van Horn, N5FPW
Brasstown, NC USA
Monitoring Times magazine
Assistant/Review Editor

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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island


I am not sure the lack of enough understanding of English is the main factor. It is a logical fact to DO NOT shout your callsign (or even just your suffix) when a QSO is already in progress or when another suffix is asked. It is a nonsense and an egocentric behavior. I think the international alphabet is clear enough to avoid these kind of confusions by anyone from any country. I would not call if I hear from the DX "Alpha Sierra, go ahead", even if my name is ending by "AS"... Another part of the problem could be a culture difference (and the latin culture might have these significative differences: << me and what peoples would think about me and about my "power", first... >> (...let's worry about the others later).

And to reply to another comment, this "problem" has nothing to do with this particular coming KP5 operation but is simply redundant with most of the rare DXpeditions.

73 de Nicolas F5FRM (a french/spanish latin one :-)




----- Mail Original -----
De: "ragnar otterstad" <la...@yahoo.no>
À: w8tahra...@gmail.com, dx-chat@njdxa.org, jdav...@mindspring.com, mausop...@btinternet.com Envoyé: Lundi 26 Janvier 2009 18:57:41 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne
Objet: [DX-CHAT] Descheo Island


I can see right now what's going to happen when they
work Europe:

When the operator says quite clearly for the fifth time
"Golf Nine Alpha Alpha Alpha five and nine", all
the Italians will keep shouting their last two for ten
minutes solid on the G9's frequency, overmodulating
their 3kW amplifiers and without pausing for
breath......even if they are in the log twelve times
already.


Unfortunately, I think you are right. Part of the problem is lack of proper understanding of English, which applies to all the latin countries, where films are dubbed. Up here, we have subtitles, so people get language lessons without even knowing it !!
>
These guys are all pretty good operators and you'll
have propagation akin to a telephone line on most bands
nearly 24 hours per day from where you live. Don't
bother takin the time off work during the first week when
the big guns will slug it out toe to toe, but you'll
make it in the log easily enough during the second week.
If you wait till the band's closed to Italy,
anyway....."Whiskey eight Tango Alpha Hotel five and
nine".."ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY KILO ITALY
KILO ITALY KILO....."

If you're like me you concentrate on CW where there are
fewer muppets....

There are some rotten apples even on CW these days , I am sorry to say !This applies in particular to some Eastern -Europeans countries and Balkan.

If they work split, which I am sure they will, things get easier when you have experienced operators at the DX-end. F ex I rarely have to make more that 2-3 calls to get a qso when f ex DL3DXX, G3SXW and others like them are at the DX-end- Even when the signals are marginal, which they often are up here in the North !
73  rag  LA5HE




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