One more thing: I will have it back up the current db before doing anything
so you are not lost when the program messes up.
73
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

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On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Neal Campbell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Rick
>
> I will give  you the option of updating the DB manually or using an updater
> and then give you the option of whether you want it to update countries,
> prefix mapping, callsign mapping, etc. I am not going to complicate it by
> trying to figure if you have manually changed things or not, if that is your
> style then you should not have the updater manage that type of data for you.
>
> Hopefully in v10 the updater will also detect and update the program files
> for you so you do not need to download a separate program and run it! We
> shall see on that.
>
> 73
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal Software
> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>
> Amateur Radio: K3NC
> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
> DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected]
> Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Rick Kourey <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Neal,
>>
>> I think you know there is a large population of DXBase users that do not
>> want to get into the database to make country changes no matter how easy it
>> is for some to do.  I simply do not want to take on the risk of corrupting
>> the country file when you make changes on your own.
>>
>> I was at ease using the country prefix macro's that Joe created and had no
>> problems.  I had even keyed in country prefix changes that Joe provided very
>> early on that instructed me step-by-step what data to key-in and where to
>> key it and I had no problems.
>>
>> Its the same debate as before and I am not sure what the solution is.
>> Preferably, I want DXBase or any logging program to provide me with the
>> necessary prefix changes as soon as they are available that I can download
>> into my program and not worry about.
>>
>> If compromise cannot be reached, as an secondary alternative, if you
>> provided me clear step-by-step instruction on prefix changes, that would be
>> acceptable and I would key them in.  I just do not want to figure out the
>> data that must be keyed on my own and then have to figure out where to key
>> it.
>>
>> I always use your latest version of software to ensure compatibility at
>> all levels.  And I want all new program features available to me whether I
>> need them immediately or not.  In the past, up-grades were very reasonably
>> priced in my opinion and I never skipped one.
>>
>> Rick Kourey (K4KL)
>> Marvin/Charlotte, NC
>> User of Windows DXBase since 1997
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Campbell" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Alan Leith" <[email protected]>
>>
>> Cc: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:38 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem
>>
>>
>>  Hi Al
>>>
>>> So that puts you in the manual mode of maintenance and thats fine. A lot
>>> of
>>> others do not want the hassle of adding things when they work an
>>> "unknown:"
>>> or incorrect entry so thats why we do this!
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Neal Campbell
>>> Abroham Neal Software
>>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
>>> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>>>
>>> Amateur Radio: K3NC
>>> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
>>> DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected]
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Alan Leith <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Good grief, guys.  I use 2006 and when I type in a prefix that is not
>>>> already recognized I get an on-screen "reminder" of that.  I simply tell
>>>> the program to map (or not) the call to the prefix I have entered on the
>>>> line in the log indicating prefix.  A perfect example of this is with
>>>> those
>>>> moronic "TO" calls that could be about anywhere there are French
>>>> possessions.  All of this, to me at least, is a no-brainer.
>>>>
>>>> I can then go into the database and make the necessary "fine tuning"
>>>> adjustments.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, but I fail to see that this is a problem.  While I do add the
>>>> new country databases to my contest program, all changes I make in
>>>> DXbase
>>>> are done so manually.   I did take advantage of several of Joe's fixes
>>>> that
>>>> were designed to simplify things, yes, and Joe was there when I made a
>>>> couple of goofball errors.  But for the most part, I've been able to
>>>> successfully manage my DXbase programs since the early 90s.
>>>>
>>>> It is my hope that the next version of my favourite logging program will
>>>> incorporate some features that I don't already have.  At this time, I
>>>> don't
>>>> use any of the 2007 enhancements so it was not worth it to me to
>>>> upgrade.
>>>> If 20** adds full dual monitor capability and a few of the other
>>>> suggestions that have been made, I expect that I will upgrade to it.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, I am perfectly comfortable with 2006.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Al, VE1AL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:10 PM
>>>> To: Bill Parry
>>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem
>>>>
>>>> I can make it simpler if the folks who maintain their old database just
>>>> stick with that method and do not use the automatic update. From
>>>> previous
>>>> polling, I only heard from a couple of people who were actively desiring
>>>> to
>>>> maintain their databases manually (especially if there was a regular
>>>> update
>>>> mechanism).
>>>>
>>>> In this guise I would provide a mechanism so you can, for instance,
>>>> choose
>>>> to update all of the data or one or more categories (call mapping,
>>>> prefix
>>>> mapping, prefixes, qsl managers, etc).
>>>>
>>>> I am considering just making it simple and making the granular choices
>>>> at
>>>> that level instead of complicating things by tracking each individual
>>>> entry
>>>> in the database on whether  its been updated by the user or the system!
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Neal Campbell
>>>> Abroham Neal Software
>>>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
>>>> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>>>>
>>>> Amateur Radio: K3NC
>>>> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
>>>> DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected] Abroham Neal
>>>> forums:
>>>> http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Bill Parry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Just curious Tim, why would you make a manual change that is different
>>>> > from the accepted correct file?
>>>> >
>>>> > Bill W5VX
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
>>>> > [email protected]]
>>>> > On Behalf Of N3XX
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:04 AM
>>>> > To: Neal Campbell
>>>> > Cc: [email protected]
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem
>>>> >
>>>> > Sounds great as long as:
>>>> >
>>>> > 1. I can still make manual changes to the country prefixes database or
>>>> > to specific callsigns at any time.
>>>> >
>>>> > 2. File update can't overwrite any manual changes I have made to
>>>> > either of the above.
>>>> >
>>>> > If these conditions can't be met, I still prefer to make my own >
>>>> changes.
>>>> >
>>>> > 73,
>>>> > Tim - N3XX
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Neal Campbell" <[email protected]>
>>>> > To: "Bill Parry" <[email protected]>
>>>> > Cc: <[email protected]>
>>>> > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:48 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >I am working on an update function for dxb2007. I am considering
>>>> > >making to  be fed from my server so that all I would have to do in
>>>> > >the future is  change  a file and ask you to rerun the DXB  update
>>>> > >program. Is this satisfactory  (having to have an internet connection
>>>> > >when running the utility)?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I will make it so that if it finds the file that specifies the
>>>> > > update in the program folder, it will ask the user what he wants to
>>>> > > do.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 73
>>>> > > Neal Campbell
>>>> > > Abroham Neal Software
>>>> > > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
>>>> > > (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Amateur Radio: K3NC
>>>> > > Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
>>>> > > DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected] Abroham Neal
>>>> > > forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Bill Parry <[email protected]> > >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> I think one of the major drawbacks of DXBase has been the
>>>> > >> complexity of keeping the files current with regard to the prefixes
>>>> and countries.
>>>> > >> Fortunately in the past we have had "sugar daddies" come up with
>>>> > >> ways of doing this that wasn't too complicated. Currently we are
>>>> > >> going to have some major changes in country status (PJ) and changes
>>>> > >> with Russian prefixes.
>>>> > >> Hopefully we will have someone make an update that will make these
>>>> > >> changes for us. (I am hoping that the new version of DXBase will
>>>> > >> have an easier way of doing these updates.)  The contesting
>>>> > >> programs (CT, Writelog, N1MM) use an update file that you just
>>>> > >> download and install. I, of course, realize that DXBase is a far
>>>> > >> more complicated system that takes into consideration the
>>>> > >> "historical" data as well as the current country status. The
>>>> > accurate
>>>> > >> identification of the station, both current and past, is a critical
>>>> > >> function of any logging program, especially a top of the line one
>>>> > >> like DXBase!
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> FYI, I like several other folks mentioned, use the QSLing function
>>>> > >> of DXBase all the time. With a lot of help I was able to get mine
>>>> > >> set up so that I just put my blank cards into the printer and
>>>> > >> DXBase prints my cards in alphabetical order. I wrap them up and
>>>> > >> send to the bureau. This is worth a great deal to me. I wish the
>>>> > >> design part of this were a little easier to use, but honestly I
>>>> > >> don't think that you can make it simple enough for me.
>>>> > >> :-)
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Bill W5VX
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
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