At 11:37 AM -0500 2/18/03, George Matyjewicz wrote:
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>>http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/lists.html
>
>Wonderful.  That means an e-mail extractor program can point to that 
>address and get all e-addresses.  That sucks.  Most list servers have a 

So can a subscriber. In fact, for all I know there's a subscriber 
who archives everything ever sent here, and would be willing
to sell it all for a price (probably cheap!). Once messages are
in subscribers' hands, they're no longer in our control. That's
just the nature of email & lists.

>provision to cripple the e-addresses which can only be understood by 
>looking at them, i.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes georgem(at)gapent.com
...

George, you're speaking to a list that has seen programmers
defeat initial versions of Jay's Turing number deployed to stop
automated "door rattling" attacks on weak passphrases....Do
you honestly think that this measure would even slow-down the
spammers? (Look at how Slashdot's obfuscation has evolved,
an "(at)" apparently isn't nearly enough anymore.) They may
be ineffective at business, but spammers are persistent -- and
once one spammer has an email address, effectively they all 
have it.
JMR




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