On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Wim Jongman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is that RedHats opinion or do you say that in general? > It's my personal opinion, which I believe is shared by several other Red Hat contributors to Eclipse ecosystem. But it's not an official statement from whatever organization nor group of people; and it's an opinion that can change. > If there will ever be a dream of rebuilding Eclipse from the ground > This doesn't sound like a dream to me ;) > then IMHO E4 is a very solid starting point. > Sure, I agree with that. But the starting point of Eclipse IDE was many years ago, and I find dealing at best with the (actually very good) legacy more profitable to me and users than dealing with e4. But again, I'm not against it, I can change my mind, and efforts to e4-ify Generic Editor and LSP4E are welcome. It makes me wonder what exactly is the IDE? What can be stripped before it > loses that title? > Look at VSCode, it's in the transitioning phase from being perceived as editor into winning the title of IDE. What I believe are the criteria: * Everything that seems heavy (to download, to start, to run...) is perceived as an IDE independently of its feature set. * If you're providing debugger, build and deployment actions as "integrated" actions -not just as shortcuts to CLI in a menu-, you're an IDE.
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