Loren,
I am a recent graduate from a masters program that does just that. It is 
officially call "Environmental Sciences and Policy" but the premise is 
that students who graduate from this program are better suited to 
address these sorts of issues. A way to bridge the gap in communication 
between scientists and policy makers or community members or land 
managers. My background is in the natural sciences, but there are others 
in the program who are more focused on social sciences. A fellow grad 
student searched other universities that had similar programs and there 
were <20, but it seem that this idea is growing. I don't think I will 
ever make the switch to conducting social science research, but it has 
been interesting to learn how to view the ecological research from a 
completely different perspective, which I think will help those of us 
wanting to work in conservation biology.

In this light, I doubt I will need the 3-4 semesters of chemistry or 
year of physics I had to take as an undergrad. Statistics or 
experimental design would have been much more useful! You could make 
those more advanced classes elective, so for those people who are 
interested in water chemistry, or similar topics, they can follow that 
course.

Sarah

LOREN BYRNE wrote:
> This question about undergrad requirements for ecology programs prompts me to 
> throw out to the community a general question that I have pondered for years: 
> Given the increasingly recognized importance of integrating the social 
> sciences into ecology for topics such as ecosystem services, urban ecology, 
> etc., is it time to begin shifting our ecology education paradigm toward 
> inclusion of "non-traditional" courses as suggested correlative courses, if 
> not requirements, in ecology curricula, i.e., courses in sociology, economics 
> and maybe even communications? 
> Many might argue (legitimately so in my opinion) that such social science 
> courses could be more important and beneficial for students who want to go 
> into conservation biology or environmental management fields than the 
> standard "full year of chemistry and physics."
>
> cheers
>  Loren
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jonathan Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:26 pm
> Subject: courses required for graduate ecology programs
>
>   
>> Colleagues,
>>
>> We are considering revising our course curriculum for our B.S. 
>> Biology 
>> degree with a concentration in Ecology and Evolutionary Biology.  
>> Many 
>> of us feel that more training in statistics and experimental design 
>> will 
>> be beneficial to our graduates seeking professional positions and 
>> entry 
>> into research-based graduate programs.  Our current requirements 
>> are as 
>> follows:
>>
>> 1. A core curriculum (16 hours) required of all Biology majors that 
>> includes introductory Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Cellular 
>> and 
>> Molecular Biology, Botany and Zoology
>> 2.  Chemistry (Introductory I and II with lab, Organic I and either 
>> Biochemistry with a lab or Organic II with a lab
>> 3. Two semesters of Physics
>> 4. Calculus and one semester of introductory statistics
>> 5. And many upper level biology courses
>>
>> With our general education requirements (we are a public Liberal 
>> Arts 
>> College), this makes it a full 4 to 4.5 year schedule for graduation.
>>
>> We are discussing cutting back on the amount of chemistry (through 
>> Organic I) and Physics (only 1 semester) and instead having our 
>> students 
>> take additional courses in Statistics (Linear Regression and Anova) 
>> and 
>> experimental design and analysis.
>>
>> My questions to the group is this:  What are the entrance 
>> requirements 
>> to ecology graduate programs in terms of course work?  Which would 
>> better prepare students for a research-based graduate program or 
>> professional position, additional chemistry and physics or 
>> additional 
>> statistical training.
>>
>> We would not want to limit our graduates chances of entering a 
>> graduate 
>> program by failing to meet entrance requirements in terms of 
>> supplemental science coursework.  Please provide your thoughts. 
>>
>> Feel free to answer off the list.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -- 
>> *************************
>> Jonathan Horton Ph.D.
>> Department of Biology
>> One University Heights
>> UNC-Asheville CPO#2440
>> Asheville, NC 28804
>> Phone: (828)232-5152
>> Fax: (828)251-6623
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>>     


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