I admit an imperfect knowledge, and one perhaps somewhat biased by USA provincialism, but it seems that part of this phenomenon must be laid to the researchers themselves, and to a great extent to the academic community at large. I do not suggest that any given professor can single-handedly create more than a ripple where a tsunami is required, but then we can't cast them all, innocent and guilty, into the sea simultaenously, eh?

But seriously, folks, how hard a look has been given at the complex of phenomena which have given rise to, shall we say, "anti-intellectualism?"

Let's face it, academia is a GUILD. It is, by definition, an ELITE group. And the more it hardens the line between itself and the outsiders, the more the outsiders harden their side of the line. "Joe," in this case, is a thinly-veiled insult to those outsiders. Academics should, then, expect support?

WT

----- Original Message ----- From: "William Silvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Acceptance of basic research, even with fruit flies


It isn't just the public Joes that pose a problem. Governments too tend to dump basic research when funding gets tight, failing to realise that this is the resource on which all our scientific advances are based. The past few decades have seen drastic cuts in research funding around the globe, with only the most obvious applied projects being funded.

Science education tends to be very much targetted on details. I do not recall any texts that connected basic science to applied results. I used to teach courses in which I tried to develop a general understanding of science rather than put forth a collection of facts, and I always began which an exercise where first I asked my students to name the great scientists in history, and then identify the ways in which science affected their lives. I then asked them to connect the two, and they could come up with very few links. Aside from Einstein and nuclear energy, virtually none.

I like to think that by the end of the course they had a better understanding of how science had changed their lives, but many of these changes are not of obvious benefit. For example, the work of Copernicus, Gallileo, Lyell, Darwin and others have profoundly affected our lives by changing the role of religion and traditional beliefs about the centrality of humans in the universe, but that is hardly what we think about when we discuss applied science!

Bill Silvert

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason L Kindall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The political implications alone are troubling. The larger issue in my mind is that this is a real reflection of the general lack of understanding by the general public about what scientific research is and isn't. Viewed alone, it might be pretty hard to justify research on fruit flies to the average Joe (plumber or six-pack). Connect it with autism or human health and then it becomes more palatable to the public. However, it doesn't get there in the popular media, does it?

We're up against a real wall here, folks. As our economy gets more turbulent there will be more uninformed remarks about research dollars being spent on projects that the public has a hard time connecting with.

So where do we fight the good fight of science education? In schools? In colleges? At home? I interact with *great* teachers that don't understand scientific inquiry. The education system for our nations teachers doesn't include much in the way of what science is for anyone but actual science teachers in training (and that is sparse at best). We should do what we can to diversify science courses in core curriculum across all majors.

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