On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Aaron T. Dossey <bugoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When we graduate, we have more or less the same credentials as everyone else
> - a degree. There are many successful scientists without Ph.D.'s but many
> more with Ph.D.'s who are unemployed.
Can you make a rough estimate of the relative frequencies of each.
> Also, to emphasize how little we get out of
> a Ph.D. (a lot is stolen from us), we don't get credit for our work or
> publications because the professor always gets credit for everything we do
> while in their lab as a student or postdoc (which is something I am fighting
> on other fronts - I call it institutionalized intellectual property theft).
Isn't that taken care of by the first author/last author distinction?
A PI may get some undeserved credit, but that's different from the
student not getting credit. The paper is still cited as Student et al.
Or are you talking about taking the student's idea outright?
BTW, if you believe that grad students are employees to the point of
needing a union and thinking of their advisor as their boss, I would
point out that people who do creative work as employees rarely keep
the rights to their work. Typically, the intellectual property belongs
to their employer ("work done for hire"). Isn't it better to say that
grad students are not employees?
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Jane Shevtsov, Ph.D.
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co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org
“Those who say it cannot be done should not interfere with those who
are doing it.” --attributed to Robert Heinlein, George Bernard Shaw
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