I saw a TA1 for the first time just last week.  It came in from a new
trading partner because we had ISA14 set to 1.  It appeared to be generally
useless to us, so we changed ISA14 to 0.

Denny Boynton
Interim EDI Manager
M/A-COM, Inc.
(978) 442-4329
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Divoky [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 11:39 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Using X12 TA1
>
> We have a lot of experienced EDI people here.  Who has ever seen anyone
> ever
> use the TA1?
> I've probably been at 30-40 Fortune 500 sites over the last five years and
> I've never seen anyone use it.
>
> Jim Divoky
> EC Solutions
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: William J. Kammerer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 10:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Using X12 TA1
>
>
> > Patricia Markey, of HICOR (USA) Corporation, asks:
> >
> >    Does anyone have a feeling for how many companies use the X12
> >    TA1 interchange level acknowledgment? Who typically uses it
> >    and when? When one is received what does one usually do with it?
> >
> > Poor, dear Pat.  She may as well be asking whether you put the bridle on
> > before the harness.  In this turbo-charged internet e-conomy, we
> > shouldn't really be worrying about the EDI flotsam of a bygone era, with
> > its cryptic codes and expensive VANs.
> >
> > I would no sooner own up to knowing anything about this kind of EDI
> > stuff than to question dialectic materialism, or to admit belief in the
> > Immaculate Conception, in Honneker's East Germany.  But considering that
> > FORESIGHT's TradeSite/XML B2B Commerce Server does accommodate legacy
> > EDI, I figured that I'd be able to find someone around the office who
> > would know what the heck Pat is talking about.  I asked ol' Abe about
> > the TA1. He sidled up, flashed his toothless grin, and proceeded to tell
> > me about the old days of EDI.
> >
> > Abe wasn't able to tell me exactly how many companies use the TA1
> > Interchange Acknowledgment segment;  I was expecting an answer like
> > "12498, give or take a few."  But he did say it wasn't used much.  Abe
> > said the TA1 is packaged within an ISA-IEA to acknowledge to a trading
> > partner that an interchange was received from him;  it says nothing
> > about the syntactical correctness of the interchange (other than the ISA
> > and IEA themselves) - merely that it was received. It's not used that
> > often because the 997 Functional Acknowledgment is usually turned around
> > quickly enough.  Besides, the 997 response obviously implies the
> > interchange containing the functional group being acknowledged was
> > received.
> >
> > Ol' Abe did take issue with Kelly Babcock's comment on the TA1.  She
> > said "the TA1 segment is most commonly used between VANs at the mailbag
> > level enveloping to help separate the mailbag enveloping from the
> > interchanges inside the mailbag."  Abe thinks she's confusing the TA1
> > with the ANSI X12 12.56 TA3 mailbag and Interchange Delivery Notice
> > segment, which is used by VANs to report on the status of interchanges
> > as they hop from VAN to VAN.
> >
> > To see how many companies require the TA1 acknowledgment, just look at
> > their ISA Interchange headers: the TA1 is returned only if the ISA14
> > (D.E. I13)  Acknowledgment Requested indicator is 1.  This indicator is
> > independent of, and has nothing to do with, whether 997s are returned;
> > use of 997s is usually up to a trading partner agreement or convention.
> > There are a few odd situations where the TA1 is the mandated form of
> > interchange acknowledgment, rather than relying on the 997 to deduce
> > whether an interchange was received.
> >
> > William J. Kammerer
> > FORESIGHT Corp.
> > 4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
> > Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
> > (614) 791-1600
> >
> > Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at http://www.foresightcorp.com/
> > "Commerce for a New World"
> >
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