Yeah, D'Anne...you're comments are right on the mark...all the way
from bisync to VANs, to Internet and to XML.
Go girl!
Rachel
Hi Dave,
>From my perspective, it seems that you are not very experienced with
BISYNC. Of
course I may be totally wrong, but I had to put my two cents in.
Bisync may be old, but it is tried and true. And even though it is
slow, which
is only because
people do not want to put in dedicated lines (bisync does run over
T1), it is
secure.
I will not dispute the fact that WAL-MART is a pain to work with. I
have been
dealing
with them since day one, and will never step foot in their stores. (my
choice I
know)
The WIN (Walmart Information Network) runs on Sterling Commerce
Products.
Years ago it was SUPERTRACS, now I think it is CONNECT:Mailbox and
others.
To help lighten the weight on an 800 pound gorilla, you have to stop
feeding it,
and
try working with it.
The Internet has no security without pouring out lots of money, time,
and hiring
the
experts on firewalls, who seem to be x-hackers anyway. And after all
that, it is
still not secure.
Now there are companies creating their own proprietary private
Internets
(i,e,ANX)
and requiring their buyers and suppliers to use it. ANX it not
cheap.....nor is
it inexpensive.
I have no problem with wanting to use the Internet. I think that it is
a
valuable
asset and a great opportunity for the future. And there are even a
couple of
Internet Vans
out there helping it along.
What I do have a problem with is people pushing the Internet. Pushing
it as the
cheap way to do business. There may be some people who are
ready to deal with it, but most are so inexperienced with it they have
no idea
what they
are getting themselves into, all they know is that someone who thinks
they have
the
answers said it is faster, better and cheaper. A lot of times I have
found that
these
people with the answers cannot even provide the solution.
This includes people who are constantly pushing XML, especially to
replace EDI.
Some of
these people do not have a clue about what it is all about, or the
years and
tears that it
took to get to where we are with EDI today. Plus they do not have a
clue about
the years
and tears it will take to standardize XML. But they continue to push
it on
people and
companies as being the way out of EDI and Bisync. The so called
"cheap" way out.
Well, they get what they pay for.
Opinion submitted without charge.
D'Anne Weitzman
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Hi EDI at Helion,
First, just a semantic point: you're not edaling with "Walmart's
VAN",
you're dealing with Walmart directly.
Walmart's Electronic Services group publishes a document entitled
"Getting
Started with EDI" which they will send or e-mail to their Vendor (your
customer). You can ask your customer to request that document and
forward
it to you, or you can contact the Walmart Fax-On-Demand at
501-277-5505.
Use Option 1 to get a list of available EDI documents and go from
there.
This document contains their communications interface specs, support
desk
phone number and hours and testing procedures.
If their numbers haven't changed, you can contact their support desk
at
501-273-4556, Mon-Fri, 8AM-5PM Central Time. Their testing group is
Option
3 on their phone menu. You will need your customer's Vendor No. and
other
information defined in the above document.
Technical information about the bisync modem required to connect with
Walmart is available at Interface Systems, Inc., 815-654-8110.
Now, for the editorial break:
I've been asking this 800lb gorilla for 2 years now about an internet
connection option. They had a person assigned to such a development
project, but that person left the EDI department and no one has picked
up
the ball. This bisynch modem stuff is an absolute pain every time we
turn
around.
If you or your customer have any influence, you (and everyone else on
the
list) can do us all a big favor by exerting every pressure possible on
Walmart to join us in the 21st Century by adding a communications
option
other than bisynch, and preferably (for us) an internet-based option.
Good luck to you and your customer. Let us all know how you progress.
Dave Taylor
Sysmark Information Systems, Inc.
800-797-6275
P.S. Another editorial:
While I hear grumbling from time to time about "vendors" taking
commercial
advantage of the list, I must say that a great deal of the most
valuable
information comes from the vendors, because we are all out in the
industry
meeting and greeting these opportunities every day.
It's a real pleasure for us to be able to provide some assistance to
those
who have assisted us so often. Thank you all for your continued
participation.
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From: "edi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:35 AM
Subject: walmart VAN
> Howdy -
> can anyone share any info/suggestions/experiences regarding testing
with
> walmarts' bisynch VAN? We have a client who is a walmart vendor, and
we're
> trying to hook them up, however, we are finding walmart less than
> cooperative.
>
> helion
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